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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    Wow. I missed this part... Way more than one person and world wide organizations have made the allegations against him. The only thing unproven is what the check was for.. The Iranians stated that it was support for the freedom effort in Egypt... I'm sure you believe that too..
    Was there a check? Has that been proven?

    You have no idea what I believe, cammando ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    From the Associated Press: During his tenure the Egyptian-born diplomat, who shared the 2005 Nobel Peace Prize with his agency, was criticized by the U.S., and some other IAEA members for comments on Iran, Iraq or other nations under examination for possible violations of nonproliferation commitments. He was accused of straying from the strictly technical commentary he was mandated for to making politically tinged statements that sometimes clashed with Washington's interests. "Unfortunately, ElBaradei is likely to remain part of the problem, rather than solution, if he becomes increasingly unwilling toward the end of his term" to rein in his views on the Middle East and other issues that hew closer to positions held by developing countries than the U.S. and its allies, wrote Schulte.

    Quoting ElBaradei as saying that the IAEA will "go through the motions" of trying to probe alleged secret nuclear work in Iran and Syria, the cable suggested the agency chief was remiss, adding he "seems poised to continue to place the onus on the U.S. and others to 'solve' the Iran and Syria issues."
    Those are criticisms of his views ... nothing about his alleged corrupt behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsider View Post
    Was there a check? Has that been proven?

    You have no idea what I believe, cammando ...
    According to the Iranians there was a check... For what purpose can't be proven... But the Iranians have never supported freedom that I know of...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    According to the Iranians there was a check... For what purpose can't be proven... But the Iranians have never supported freedom that I know of...
    Do you have a source for that? Did the Iranians say it, or this the Egyptian attorney general again?

    Besides, do you believe everything the Iranians say?

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    Wasn't it an Iranian (code-named Curveball) that pretty much dragged us (even though it's been well-established well before 9/11 that the Bush Administration was going to take us into Iraq sometime) hook, line and sinker into Iraq?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/me...raq.curveball/

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    I, at least have one source, biased or not... You have none that can dispute it... And at least one fact has been proven. He DID manipulate the evidence on Iran's nuke program..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    I, at least have one source, biased or not...
    A biased source is no better than no source ... neither gives you both sides of the story. Not that you want both sides ...

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    You have none that can dispute it..
    You're asking me to prove a negative?

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    And at least one fact has been proven. He DID manipulate the evidence on Iran's nuke program..
    Where has that been proven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsider View Post
    I didn't quantify it all .. I simply asked where it was.

    Truth be told, it seems there are more on this board expressing left-of-center views than there were then.

    You know, RTS ... when I ask a question, it's because I don't know the answer. I'm wondering what this "extremism" is that you saw on this board.
    Take the view of some on the Tea Party alone. There are those that paint the entire party as racist just because of a handful of idiots, the same amount that's in any given organization. You yourself, at times, painted the party in that light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Run To State View Post
    Take the view of some on the Tea Party alone. There are those that paint the entire party as racist just because of a handful of idiots, the same amount that's in any given organization. You yourself, at times, painted the party in that light.
    Again, you're way off base. I never said the Tea Party was racist, only that it had some racist elements in it. If you want to criticize my position, fine, but assess it accurately. I've only had to tell you that a half-dozen times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsider View Post
    Was there a check? Has that been proven?

    You have no idea what I believe, cammando ...
    I see you state this repeatedly in different threads. Maybe you should enlighten us. What do you believe?

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    The IAEA had no reason to lie in their findings.... Elbaradei said the Iranians were not trying to make weapons... The new team found the evidence right away.. Now the Iranians are bragging about their progress in weapon making.... If you agree with ElBaradei, that's fine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cammando View Post
    The IAEA had no reason to lie in their findings.... Elbaradei said the Iranians were not trying to make weapons... The new team found the evidence right away.. Now the Iranians are bragging about their progress in weapon making.... If you agree with ElBaradei, that's fine...
    Where is the evidence? I mean real evidence ... not the interpretation of it by people with an obvious predisposition.

    I'm not an expert on the issue, and have said nothing about ElBaradei's position on Iran, but the intelligence agencies also maintained that Saddam Hussein had WMD and Saddam himself wanted the rest of the world to think he did ... it was just a bluff.

    Bottom line ... I'm not sure that anyone really knows what's going on over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldweatherfan View Post
    I see you state this repeatedly in different threads. Maybe you should enlighten us. What do you believe?
    Snide comments like me thinking Kofi Annan was a saint and believing the Iranians about an alleged $7 million payoff prove that he has no idea what I believe.

    On the topic at hand, criticisms of the Bush administration's decision to invade Iraq, my feelings are pretty clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    Wasn't it an Iranian (code-named Curveball) that pretty much dragged us (even though it's been well-established well before 9/11 that the Bush Administration was going to take us into Iraq sometime) hook, line and sinker into Iraq?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/me...raq.curveball/
    Don't believe the bolded is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    Wasn't it an Iranian (code-named Curveball) that pretty much dragged us (even though it's been well-established well before 9/11 that the Bush Administration was going to take us into Iraq sometime) hook, line and sinker into Iraq?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/me...raq.curveball/
    Would you care to enlighten me on the bolded?

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