David Williams reports gambling losses

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    Quote Originally Posted by HT721 View Post
    Even still I can see how he opposes casino's. Casino's don't hurt someone like Williams who has money, who they would hurt are the poorer families that might go continually trying to hit the big break. Casinos pray on the weak often times, and Kentucky has enough poverty to combat without making the situation worse. I can also understand going to a Casino on vacation in Las Vegas and not wanting it next door to my house.
    While I somewhat agree with the notion the fact is that people in KY are wearing the expressways out to get to IN, WV, TN and will soon be OH to gamble their money. Doesn't make sense to not have it here as to not lose the revenue from our residents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel View Post
    While I somewhat agree with the notion the fact is that people in KY are wearing the expressways out to get to IN, WV, TN and will soon be OH to gamble their money. Doesn't make sense to not have it here as to not lose the revenue from our residents.
    I am totally with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachBuckett View Post
    I am sure he has been taking Kick backs from casinos.
    I certainly is worthy of a full investigation by the AG.

    Without a doubt the Indiana Casinos do not want slots or casinos at the tracks. It is competition and they will always fight it.

    I always thought Williams was just being a Bible-thumping jerk for opposing the expansion of gambling services at the tracks. Now, it could be that his pockets were getting lined from those that benefit if it is prevented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrasscard View Post
    I certainly is worthy of a full investigation by the AG.

    Without a doubt the Indiana Casinos do not want slots or casinos at the tracks. It is competition and they will always fight it.

    I always thought Williams was just being a Bible-thumping jerk for opposing the expansion of gambling services at the tracks. Now, it could be that his pockets were getting lined from those that benefit if it is prevented.
    So waste taxpayer dollars with an AG investigation. There are plenty of legal ways for Casinos to support Williams. Williams is too savy and too smart to not go the legal route on all of this.

    The state of Kentucky already spent something like 10 million chasing Ernie Fletcher and that resulted in absolutely nothing, and I highly doubt a high end investigation here would find anything anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HT721 View Post
    So waste taxpayer dollars with an AG investigation. There are plenty of legal ways for Casinos to support Williams. Williams is too savy and too smart to not go the legal route on all of this.

    The state of Kentucky already spent something like 10 million chasing Ernie Fletcher and that resulted in absolutely nothing, and I highly doubt a high end investigation here would find anything anyways.
    Lots of people lost their jobs during the Fletcher administration, and a lot were pardoned. So it didn't result in 'nothing'.

    If David Williams is old enough to make his own decisions about his gambling why are the citizens of the state of Kentucky not old enough to do the same. And, while it may not save the state coffers it sure would help the racing industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acemona View Post
    Lots of people lost their jobs during the Fletcher administration, and a lot were pardoned. So it didn't result in 'nothing'.

    If David Williams is old enough to make his own decisions about his gambling why are the citizens of the state of Kentucky not old enough to do the same. And, while it may not save the state coffers it sure would help the racing industry.
    The Fletcher chase did result in nothing too, they kept going long after the pardons to try and bring Fletcher down and kept running up the state's tab on the investigation. Once the pardons were issued it was a dead horse but Stumbo just kept beating at it.

    What if Williams constituents, which includes the area I was raised in and my parents still live in are opposed to gambling and he is just representing what those who elected him wanted? I know a large portion of those in the area I still speak to were opposed to it.

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    I don’t care about who will get the money, I don’t care who is taking money. All I want to do is be able to play craps, blackjack or any other game without having to drive for an hour!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HT721 View Post
    The Fletcher chase did result in nothing too, they kept going long after the pardons to try and bring Fletcher down and kept running up the state's tab on the investigation. Once the pardons were issued it was a dead horse but Stumbo just kept beating at it.

    What if Williams constituents, which includes the area I was raised in and my parents still live in are opposed to gambling and he is just representing what those who elected him wanted? I know a large portion of those in the area I still speak to were opposed to it.
    Its fine to oppose it with a no vote but he keeps blocking it from a vote. The majority of Kentuckian's want casinos however he's allowed to be represent his constituents disproportionatly to their number or size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    Since this was from 8-10 years ago that may be one reason he's opposed to it. Kind of like ex-smokers who often seem to be much more aggressive in opposing smoking.
    Right, considering he's still a regular at the Indiana casinos and gets VIP treatment there. Makes complete sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel View Post
    Its fine to oppose it with a no vote but he keeps blocking it from a vote. The majority of Kentuckian's want casinos however he's allowed to be represent his constituents disproportionatly to their number or size.
    Exactly. If he's going to act solely on behalf of the residents of a part of the state with extremely antiquated ways of thinking compared to the rest of the state, he should abdicate his Senate leadership post in favor of someone whose philosophy more closely reflects the state. They're already voting in huge numbers if you read the license plates at the Indiana casinos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Humped Camel View Post
    Its fine to oppose it with a no vote but he keeps blocking it from a vote. The majority of Kentuckian's want casinos however he's allowed to be represent his constituents disproportionatly to their number or size.
    I'm not so sure a majority want it or don't want it, I haven't seen much data either way. I do feel fairly certain in saying that the very conservative Bible Belt district Williams represents doesn't want it though, just like I'm sure those in the horse racing industry do. Beyond those two distinct groups I'm not sure where people fall on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schue View Post
    Exactly. If he's going to act solely on behalf of the residents of a part of the state with extremely antiquated ways of thinking compared to the rest of the state, he should abdicate his Senate leadership post in favor of someone whose philosophy more closely reflects the state. They're already voting in huge numbers if you read the license plates at the Indiana casinos.
    I would say since he keeps getting elected by his peers they feel pretty sure his values do represent Kentucky. They may not be what you want to represent Kentucky, but other voices count equally.

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    IMO, the ISSUE needs to be put to a vote. It's easy to say that Williams keeps getting elected because of his stance on this issue matches his constituency. The thing is, he weilds much power, and the issue affects many more than his constituency. Put the issue to a vote in an election. Let ALL the citizens of Kentucky have the opportunity to say whether they want casino gambling, not just those who Williams represents.

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    If a plebiscite was good enough for a restriction on same-sex marriage then why isn't it good enough for this issue? I think we ought to let an issue of this magnitude be settled by the people as opposed to being blocked by a powerful issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schue View Post
    Right, considering he's still a regular at the Indiana casinos and gets VIP treatment there. Makes complete sense.

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