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State of Kentucky - Population 4,468,000

As of Wednesday, May 20, 2020

 

1 in 823 of us presently has Covid

 

Over the duration of this "pandemic" - 1 in every 12,207 of us have died.

The majority are elderly with other existing conditions.

Even at 50% Nursing Home/Federal Prison that brings the number to 1 in every 24,414 of we Normal/Healthy folks have died from it.

 

Since I'm not one of the unfortunate folks to have it or have died from it, I'd say these are pretty acceptable numbers.

 

Since it's been 24 days (over three weeks) since Tennessee has opened up to indoor dining, etc., and their numbers have not skyrocketed out of control, it seems to me like an "At Your Own RisK" policy need be put in place for the rest of us.

Nobody would be forcing anyone to do anything they didn't want to do.

 

So as long as it wasn't you, it's ok that other "unfortunate" folks died. And because of that, lets just throw the doors open, and sacrifice a few more unfortunate folks. The problem with giving everyone a choice, is not everyone actually has a choice. Some people will be forced to go back to work, school, etc.

 

I shouldn't be, but I'm still shocked at the degree of callousness you've shown throughout this. I give you credit for sticking to your line of thinking despite the best efforts of others to show the shortcomings of your statistical analysis.

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I'm just guessing here, but my guess is that if 100% of the population that HAS NOT BEEN TESTED would be tested, that under .1% (Point 1% = 1 - 1000) would come back positive, and probably fewer than that..

 

This testing thing is a new phenomena we old schoolers are not familiar with.

In the past if you felt bad, or actually got sick, you went to the doctor who prescribed you something to help you get better.

 

If you felt fine you didn't run off to get tested, just in case you might actually have it but don't know it.

 

I think it is safe to say that if you feel fine you should be considered as not having it.

 

Somehow, you continue to make posts with more and more uneducated and incorrect exclamations.

 

0.1% of the US population is 330,000. New York, ALONE, has more cases than that. So right off the bat, you are laughably wrong on your guess. According to the CDC, less than 4% of Americans have been tested, returning 1.7 million positive tests. You think if we test the other 96% of Americans, we wouldn't get 330,000 more positives? :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

 

In response to your last sentence, do you know what the word asymptomatic means?

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I'm just guessing here, but my guess is that if 100% of the population that HAS NOT BEEN TESTED would be tested, that under .1% (Point 1% = 1 - 1000) would come back positive, and probably fewer than that..

 

This testing thing is a new phenomena we old schoolers are not familiar with.

In the past if you felt bad, or actually got sick, you went to the doctor who prescribed you something to help you get better.

 

If you felt fine you didn't run off to get tested, just in case you might actually have it but don't know it.

 

I think it is safe to say that if you feel fine you should be considered as not having it.

 

Typhoid Mary felt fine. People with HIV are asymptomatic (and contagious) for long periods of time before showing symptons (familiar with Magic Johnson, who still looks fine over 25 years after diagnosis?). Cholera, Chlymdia, TB, and Polio are all examples of diseases that can be spread by people who "feel fine". CV-19 is far more contagious, and spreads much easier than all of those diseases. Which is why the shutdown was necessary. Asymptomatic carriers are a huge reason behind many pandemics.

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I lost all faith in the numbers when a coroner told me that since this all started they were instructed to write cause of death as covid, unless it was something obvious like a gunshot or car accident.

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I lost all faith in the numbers when a coroner told me that since this all started they were instructed to write cause of death as covid, unless it was something obvious like a gunshot or car accident.

 

Best guess it. You don't believe the numbers. How far off are they?

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0.1% of the US population is 330,000. New York, ALONE, has more cases than that.

 

Here is the problem. WE ARE NOT NEW YORK.

Almost everything I've said about this since day one has been based on the regional or statewide situation.

Our numbers are DRAMATICALLY different than New York, New Jersey, Florida, or Timbucktoo.

IF I lived in New York I would see this in a whole different light, but I live in the Bluegrass Preps region, where we don't need to be living our lives as though we live in New York.

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Here is the problem. WE ARE NOT NEW YORK.

Almost everything I've said about this since day one has been based on the regional or statewide situation.

Our numbers are DRAMATICALLY different than New York, New Jersey, Florida, or Timbucktoo.

IF I lived in New York I would see this in a whole different light, but I live in the Bluegrass Preps region, where we don't need to be living our lives as though we live in New York.

 

You talked about testing everyone in the COUNTRY, and I simply used New York as an example to show how your NATIONAL number of 0.1% was ridiculous.

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You talked about testing everyone in the COUNTRY, and I simply used New York as an example to show how your NATIONAL number of 0.1% was ridiculous.

 

Even if he’s only talking about Kentucky, were closing in on .2% of the population already.

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Even if he’s only talking about Kentucky, were closing in on .2% of the population already.

 

Everyone knows that but him.

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Here is the problem. WE ARE NOT NEW YORK.

Almost everything I've said about this since day one has been based on the regional or statewide situation.

Our numbers are DRAMATICALLY different than New York, New Jersey, Florida, or Timbucktoo.

IF I lived in New York I would see this in a whole different light, but I live in the Bluegrass Preps region, where we don't need to be living our lives as though we live in New York.

 

Maybe we are not New York because of the precautions we have taken. They got smacked in the face with it hard. We had time to prepare. Granted, they live in much closer quarters there which didn’t help, but IMO, we would have been hit so much harder if we had not done what we did.

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I shouldn't be, but I'm still shocked at the degree of callousness you've shown throughout this. I give you credit for sticking to your line of thinking despite the best efforts of others to show the shortcomings of your statistical analysis.

Guys/Gals: It's not personal. I've generated a lot of dialogue here for the Gu and I've discovered just how strongly the "other camp" feels about this thing. In my lifetime I've lived through some challenging times, and I'm wondering if this is the defining mass casualty event of my lifetime. It doesn't come close to feeling like it.

It is a very contagious form of the flu. For the most part folks get it and folks recover from it. To me it is a sign of the times that we seemingly so violently have over-reacted to. I've also spoken on a regional/statewide/BGP state of our environment - Not New York, New Jersey, Florida, China or Timbucktoo. I try to speak on how we here at home are affected. The number of confirmed cases (all I have to go on) versus the population, and the number of deaths versus our population seem dramatically insignificant for the actions being taken. Remember the shut down was only supposed to help keep our medical facilities from being overwhelmed by a huge first-wave. BUT, it is now nine weeks later, and it seems that similar dramatic steps are continued to be taken to protect every last one of us from ever contracting it. I'm also trying to be a voice of our teenagers (the least susceptible) who are being victimized substantially by this thing through no fault of their own. Using the excuse that they can't gather, compete, or experience some form of a formal graduation, BECUASE they might contract it and take it back to their elderly grandparents, seems extremely weak to me. I wonder, now that this has become the "new norm", how many times in their lifetime that they are doomed to repeat it.

 

I've never spoken out against not taking preventative measures as required. I think that safe-distancing is the key ingredient. I think that in the beginning, I too, might have been pro-mask, and even feel like even today there are times and places for them. Were I sitting next to The Duece on his airline flight, I would have been happy and would have wanted to wear a mask. Shopping at Kroger on May 21st, not so much.

 

I don't feel as though I'm being "callous", I'm being honest. I'm trying to represent the views of most folks my age (72) and geographical location. Most folks my age are the ones who most believe that this whole thing is insane and over-reaching, yet we are the ones who are supposedly being protected from it. Most people my age don't post on BGP.

 

I'm certainly not going to change your thinking, and you are not going to change mine. To me BGP has always been about paying your fee, expressing my opinion, and then if you don't agree pay your fee and tell me I'm full of it. I'm OK with that.

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Maybe we are not New York because of the precautions we have taken. They got smacked in the face with it hard. We had time to prepare. Granted, they live in much closer quarters there which didn’t help, but IMO, we would have been hit so much harder if we had not done what we did.

 

Maybe! But at some point we have to move into a "At Your Own Risk" environment.

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Even if he’s only talking about Kentucky, were closing in on .2% of the population already.

 

.2% - Point Two Percent = 2 in 1000 over a 9 week period.

 

New York is at 13 in 100.

 

Thanks for supporting my position!

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.2% - Point Two Percent = 2 in 1000 over a 9 week period.

 

New York is at 13 in 100.

 

Thanks for supporting my position!

 

Your position was that if we tested EVERYONE we WOULDN'T be at 0.1%...

 

We are at 0.2% having tested 3.5% of the population of KY.

 

How do those numbers support your position? :lol2:

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Maybe! But at some point we have to move into a "At Your Own Risk" environment.

 

Honestly I agree with reopening things, using proper precautions. I disagree with “at our own risk.” We have to realize that when we go out we also risk others, even if they are trying to isolate. Without knowing, I could pass it to someone who could unknowingly pass it to their mother while dropping off groceries.

 

I am a nurse but have been off for 3 months. I have to go back to work. I could spread it to my husband, who could spread it to his co workers before any of realize we are sick.

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