Natonal Championship and Heisman.....

Page 2 of Well as the story goes and the games are played, the 2007 UK vs, U of L game gave us the following: Scratch Brohm off of the Heisman List. => He wil... 22 comments | 739 Views | Go to page 1 →

  1. #16

    Join Date
    Nov 04
    Location
    5 Miles from nowhere
    Posts
    20,629

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce
    Brohm still has a chance, but I agree with HT, it's Booty's to lose...
    If Florida keeps rolling and USC continues to ride their RB's, it might be Tim Tebow...
    Advertisement

  2. #17

    Join Date
    May 01
    Location
    City of Beautiful Homes
    Posts
    25,561

    Quote Originally Posted by Riverside 157
    Brohms chances of winning the Hesiman have absolutly nothing to do with Woodson. Woodson, in my opinion, needs to win out, to truly have a "chance" to win the award. He can have a great year, is off to a great start, but there are a couple of toughies on the schedule that remain......
    Woodson has no chance no matter how the season plays out. That's not to say he wouldn't deserve it.

  3. #18
    _Scarface_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 07
    Location
    UNC 86 UK 77...Can you say 4 victories in a row for the Heels vs UK?...Gardner Webb?...WOW!
    Posts
    4,388

    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebo...amedayFinal073

    Can a quarterback lose a Heisman Trophy because his team's secondary can't find a wide receiver without a searchlight and a pack of bloodhounds?

    We're going to find out.
    Louisville's Brian Brohm is putting up Heisman-esque numbers this season: more than 1,100 passing yards, 11 touchdowns, just one interception, 67 percent of his passes completed. Saturday night against rival Kentucky on the road, Brohm brilliantly led an 83-yard drive -- completing six out of seven passes -- for the go-ahead touchdown with 1:45 left.
    AP Photo/Ed Reinke
    Louisville's Brian Brohm put up huge numbers, but could take a fall in the Heisman rankings.



    Turns out he got his team downfield too fast. Because the last thing he wants to do this year is count on the Louisville defense to close out a game.
    Sure enough, a massive coverage bust helped produce a 57-yard touchdown pass from Andre' Woodson to Steve Johnson with 28 seconds left. Just that quickly, the night became a coronation of Woodson (who deserves it, having thrown four TD passes in the game and shattered the SEC record for consecutive passes without an interception). And now Brohm's Heisman campaign probably is in John Edwards, come-from-behind mode.
    Arkansas' Darren McFadden is probably wondering whether the same thing happened to him Saturday night. His 200 rushing yards against Alabama were overcome by the Crimson Tide's 41 points.
    Both players should not be counted out of the Heisman race by any stretch. But don't be surprised if we start hearing more about guys such as Florida's Tim Tebow, Boston College's Matt Ryan, and, yes, Woodson -- guys whose teams are still unbeaten.
    Fact is, the Heisman has become almost inextricably linked with team success. It has almost become an award for the best player on a team in the top 10 (or even the top five).
    That's how you end up with an Eric Crouch winning the thing. So although Brohm and McFadden should remain in the discussion, they're each a loss or two from being pushed out.
    In Brohm's case, more losses appear likely with a defense that cannot reliably stop a leaky faucet, much less West Virginia or Rutgers or South Florida or Cincinnati.
    Word is that head coach Steve Kragthorpe became more hands-on with the Louisville D after its inept performance against Middle Tennessee. The Cardinals were better on that side of the ball against Kentucky, but far from stout.
    We'll see when the ESPN.com Heisman poll rolls out this week how much Brohm has to pay for that.

  4. #19

    Join Date
    Oct 06
    Posts
    5,545

    Quote Originally Posted by 75center
    Woodson has no chance no matter how the season plays out. That's not to say he wouldn't deserve it.
    If UK goes undefeated he won't win?

  5. #20

    Join Date
    Nov 04
    Location
    5 Miles from nowhere
    Posts
    20,629

    Quote Originally Posted by mobaar
    If UK goes undefeated he won't win?
    My honest opinion...

    If UK goes undefeated this year, Andre Woodson would be a lock to win the Heisman and might win it by the largest margin ever.

    Are you kidding me? A first-round pro prospect at QB leads UK to a bowl win over Clemson as a junior and then returns to lead them to an undefeated season...he'd have to win it. It's Kentucky. They just don't go undefeated in football, so if he lead them to that...they'd almost certainly be in the BCS Title game because that would include a win over Florida and LSU (maybe two wins over LSU)...how could they give it to anyone else?

  6. #21

    Join Date
    Oct 06
    Posts
    5,545

    Quote Originally Posted by 5wide
    My honest opinion...

    If UK goes undefeated this year, Andre Woodson would be a lock to win the Heisman and might win it by the largest margin ever.

    Are you kidding me? A first-round pro prospect at QB leads UK to a bowl win over Clemson as a junior and then returns to lead them to an undefeated season...he'd have to win it. It's Kentucky. They just don't go undefeated in football, so if he lead them to that...they'd almost certainly be in the BCS Title game because that would include a win over Florida and LSU (maybe two wins over LSU)...how could they give it to anyone else?
    Thats my opinion too. Now the big disclaimer is that I think UK has about a 1% chance of going undefeated, and maybe a 5% chance of only having 1 loss. BUT, that IS a CHANCE.

  7. #22
    AverageJoesGym's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 05
    Location
    Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
    Posts
    16,781

    Quote Originally Posted by buzzer beater
    Brohm will not win the award? If Brohm wins out and throws for over 4,000 yards ( which IMO he will) and around 30-35 touchdowns, who else will win it? Woodson?? I highly doubt it. And U of L could win out and still make the national championship game. USC could get beat, so could Florida, LSU, West Virginia, and every other team ahead of them.
    And the exact same thing that happened to them last year would happen again. A one loss team from the SEC, Pac 10 or Big 12 would get in the National Championship Game ahead of them. UL has no chance to win the Heisman. As for Brohm I didn't see any thing that either he, or McFadden for Arkansas did wrong in their team's losses that would eliminate them from the Heisman race.

  8. #23

    Join Date
    Nov 04
    Location
    5 Miles from nowhere
    Posts
    20,629

    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym
    And the exact same thing that happened to them last year would happen again. A one loss team from the SEC, Pac 10 or Big 12 would get in the National Championship Game ahead of them. UL has no chance to win the Heisman. As for Brohm I didn't see any thing that either he, or McFadden for Arkansas did wrong in their team's losses that would eliminate them from the Heisman race.
    It's not that they did anything wrong, but team losses ultimately hurt a players Heisman chances. A loss @ Kentucky, whom they had owned recently, when U of L was talking national title before the season really hurts his chances.

    Are the completely done? No, but not far from it, IMO.

    They'd have to win out...and he'd have to play lights out, which is possible. One thing in Brohm's advantage, IMO, is U of L's schedule. They play the trio of USF, West Virginia and Rutgers in succession to close the season...it's likely those three weeks will decide the Big East so the games will get a lot of hype and they'll give Brohm a chance to shine under a big spotlight and lead his team to a Big East title by winning big games in succession to end the season. Big games and wins at the end of the season always give a big boost to a guys heisman chances...also, two of those games will give him a chance to win head-to-head vs. other contenders (White, Slaton, and Rice).

    That's his chance, IMO...to lead U of L to the Big East title in grand fashion by outplaying those other guys and carrying his team to victory. For instance, if he had huge games and lead U of L on game winning TD drives inside of 2 minutes to play in those games...imagine the credit he would receiver for his stats and his clutch play.

Top