Major Program Violations (Colin Cowherd)

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    How is clarification needed when I say "every program"? Seems pretty darn clear and to the point...
    Lighten up, Francis ...
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    UK Fans, we go over the speed limit, we run a yellow light, stop sign etc, its against the law, if caught you pay a fine... You give a recruit more food, or you do something to bring on the death penalty, which is what Bama has been told. Two players were taken fishing by a rival fan, elderly man, we called the NCAA, we had students that sold books to other students, we called the NCAA.

    Again, our school is walking a fine line here, all sin and fall short, not some. UK gets caught doing something and they have some leadway, because they haven't been caught yet. This is football I'm speaking of not basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    UK Fans, we go over the speed limit, we run a yellow light, stop sign etc, its against the law, if caught you pay a fine... You give a recruit more food, or you do something to bring on the death penalty, which is what Bama has been told. Two players were taken fishing by a rival fan, elderly man, we called the NCAA, we had students that sold books to other students, we called the NCAA.

    Again, our school is walking a fine line here, all sin and fall short, not some. UK gets caught doing something and they have some leadway, because they haven't been caught yet. This is football I'm speaking of not basketball.
    And that's my whole point. Every school cheats in some way, shape, or form. UK does it, Alabama does it, etc. Also, notice I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I'm of the firm belief that in sports if you ain't cheating, you aren't really trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    CCC, Bama has been in so much junk there is no way they would go to any kid and do anything thats not right. We don't need to cheat now days.

    Would we risk the "death penalty"? Don't think so. Would Coach Saban (walking water coach) hurt his legacy?
    Too much smoke out there about Trent Richardson for me to believe that. And Saban's ties to LSU, when all of their stuff supposedly started happening......

    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    UK Fans, we go over the speed limit, we run a yellow light, stop sign etc, its against the law, if caught you pay a fine... You give a recruit more food, or you do something to bring on the death penalty, which is what Bama has been told. Two players were taken fishing by a rival fan, elderly man, we called the NCAA, we had students that sold books to other students, we called the NCAA.

    Again, our school is walking a fine line here, all sin and fall short, not some. UK gets caught doing something and they have some leadway, because they haven't been caught yet. This is football I'm speaking of not basketball.
    UK got caught about 10 years ago. Remember the end to the Mumme era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatsCatsCats View Post
    Too much smoke out there about Trent Richardson for me to believe that. And Saban's ties to LSU, when all of their stuff supposedly started happening......



    UK got caught about 10 years ago. Remember the end to the Mumme era?
    And it was for the same thing Alabama got caught doing with the same player if I remember correctly. I also find it hard to believe Bama would get the death penalty if caught doing somthing now unless it was big and widespread through out the program.

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    Bama had issues back in the 90s Antonio Langum, 2000 Albert Means, things I mentioned earlier, as a well imformed fan any kind of problem that is a major infraction could be the DP. We are real nervous about any small rumors

    LSU/Saban nothng proven. But I'm sure he isn't super clean, he wants to win.

    Trent, why would we risk the DP for a back to be a back up to the Heisman winner? And he starts only one year. These blogs are just trying to get noticed.

    I will get keep my eye out on Bama sites and if I see something I'll be fair.

    All coaches need to see Bruce Pearle. Anybody knows what he did wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    Bama had issues back in the 90s Antonio Langum, 2000 Albert Means, things I mentioned earlier, as a well imformed fan any kind of problem that is a major infraction could be the DP. We are real nervous about any small rumors

    LSU/Saban nothng proven. But I'm sure he isn't super clean, he wants to win.

    Trent, why would we risk the DP for a back to be a back up to the Heisman winner? And he starts only one year. These blogs are just trying to get noticed.

    I will get keep my eye out on Bama sites and if I see something I'll be fair.

    All coaches need to see Bruce Pearle. Anybody knows what he did wrong?
    Larry, I just think it's ridiculous to act like Bama is the only program in America that doesn't bend rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatsCatsCats View Post
    Larry, I just think it's ridiculous to act like Bama is the only program in America that doesn't bend rules.

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    CCC, did you see where I wrote about Bama's past problems, did you see where I mentioned two issues that are prety well current.

    I think its ridiculous that you cannot read what I wrote. No where did I say that we are the only program that doesn't bend the rules.

    This past season we had a kid held out.

    Those are your thoughts. I said why would Bama cheat to get a kid when they had a very good back already, I also stated that if we mess up again we could get the death penalty.

    I also stated if there are some going on thru the Bama sites I'd post them. You need to read a little slower for you jump.

    JVD, same to you if you agree with his statements.

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    You know, here I respond to a thread about two schools that I know has some issues and I have to get on here and defend Alabama/myself again.

    I also wrote about us "walking a thin line". Why would I'd wrote that if I think we haven't "bend some rules?"

    This is getting old. "Walking on Water".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    CCC, did you see where I wrote about Bama's past problems, did you see where I mentioned two issues that are prety well current.

    I think its ridiculous that you cannot read what I wrote. No where did I say that we are the only program that doesn't bend the rules.

    This past season we had a kid held out.

    Those are your thoughts. I said why would Bama cheat to get a kid when they had a very good back already, I also stated that if we mess up again we could get the death penalty.

    I also stated if there are some going on thru the Bama sites I'd post them. You need to read a little slower for you jump.

    JVD, same to you if you agree with his statements.
    Larry, my reading comprehension is just fine. Bama, nor any other SEC team will get the death penalty in this day and age. Reggie Bush got a house from USC after all and they didn't even get the death penalty and the NCAA knows better than to really hurt one of their cash cows. That's why you see Oregon in this report and not LSU, even though LSU has been doing way, way more than Oregon has and has been doing it for a much longer time.

    Of course those are just all rumors, but with the Oregon stuff now coming to light, why would I not believe LSU, Bama, and every other team listed on alot of these reports were true? That one sight has Pete Carroll taking pictures at practice with one of the guys mentioned in this Oregon case. And they are all linked together from the same places. If it walks like a Duck, quacks like a Duck, they probably cheat like a Duck.

    You're turning this into "people are just hating on Bama", and it's not. Alabama is specifically linked to some of these reports, reports that have been out for some time and have proven to be correct about Oregon. Trent Richardson's name is specifically called out amongst college players who have been played in the street agent game. And when he came Ingram was far from a household name, and had been playing in the shawdows of Coffee the year before so it's not like Bama didn't really want him. Are we just suppose to over look that fact? SEC football is the most notorious conference now-a-days for cheating, and if I had to guess I would think that major violations have been commited at every team in the conference (besides maybe Vandy) over the last 2 or 3 years.

    Also don't forget that Bama has had alot of things swept under the rug. What about the booster providing all that crap to Juilio Jones, Ingram, and who knows who else? Wasn't that a big deal last year, that kind of never got resolved and just went away.......

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    My problem with you is how you react toward me, I don't give $00.02 about these bloggers you follow, but when I add something to a post you and others make snide comments. Y'all act like I think Bama is all that and has no sins when in fact we all know in Bama nation that a major problem with the NCAA WILL bring the DP. This has nothing to do with any other school since we have been on probation twice in the past few years.

    I asked you in the past about this and you refuse to show me respect. Its not about Bama but how you miss what I say and turn it. I'm the one who mention Jones/ingram when you said I said Bama was clean, see what I mean?

    If we do someting coach wise that is wrong, we should do the time. Booster/agents is a different bird. My coach spoke out against agents and he got blasted on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    My problem with you is how you react toward me, I don't give $00.02 about these bloggers you follow, but when I add something to a post you and others make snide comments. Y'all act like I think Bama is all that and has no sins when in fact we all know in Bama nation that a major problem with the NCAA WILL bring the DP. This has nothing to do with any other school since we have been on probation twice in the past few years.

    I asked you in the past about this and you refuse to show me respect. Its not about Bama but how you miss what I say and turn it. I'm the one who mention Jones/ingram when you said I said Bama was clean, see what I mean?

    If we do someting coach wise that is wrong, we should do the time. Booster/agents is a different bird. My coach spoke out against agents and he got blasted on here.
    All I'm going to say to that is boosters, agents and street agents are not a different bird. All are providing schools and coaches with players under the table.

    Larry be rational about this please. You're saying there is no way that Bama is doing anything wrong, but the reports that came out before Oregon got linked to anything by the national media specifically mentioned them. Why would they make that up? At best, I believe Richardson had at least some affiliation with street agents, which so far has not got any school in trouble. What Oregon has done is not technically illegal unless there is more to it.

    Every school does it, every single big one. I would almost guarantee it. Even media saint for cleaing up the U, Randy Shannon played the game, Aurther Brown, Bryce Brown. Urban Crier Meyer is probably going to go on ESPN and complain about it, but I bet he played the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schue View Post
    They deserve it for those atrocious fashion choices (as well as what looks like matching puke stains on their basketball floor).
    Death penalty for the unis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    Rockpride, your comment is really, well I'm not allowed to say it. Vols have some issues that their former coach has left them with. The basketball team is also in trouble and so is the AD dues to both programs.

    Auburn, has two kids that the NCAA is looking at.

    This has nothing to do with Alabama or Nick Saban who has won two BCS championships. My LORD and Savior is the only one to actually "Walk on Water" . You must be referring to the old joke about the Bear (6NCs), and Shrug on the lake fishing when the Bear fell in and Shrug saved him. The verse about Jesus is found in Matthew 14:24, lets look at the verse. His disciples thought at first it was a ghost. They were afraid, and Jesus take courage it is me!. Peter also wanted to try and did for a little but again was afraid. Thanks RP, I enjoyed sharing the story about Jesus, have some more for me let me know..
    Some just cannot wait for top programs to fall. I guess that somehow makes them feel better about themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    CCC, Bama has been in so much junk there is no way they would go to any and do anything thats not right. We don't need to cheat now days.

    Would we risk the "death penalty"? Don't think so. Would Coach Saban (walking water coach) hurt his legacy?
    Bama is now like they were years ago along with few other elite programs.....they have some top recruits coming to them. I do agree that with all the stupid little rules the NCAA has now that it would be hard not tobreak one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFaan View Post
    Oh come on AL, every program, specifically in the SEC, cheats. That includes you're do no wrong, perfect Crimson Tide. I promise you, if the NCAA looked hard enough they could bust Saban and Bama. Just as they could bust Auburn, just as they could LSU, UF, UT, etc., etc.
    Correct. Bama probably bought them a hot dog or something major like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by westsider View Post
    And Kentucky, too?
    I certainly remember "Curci's Convicts" and the Hal "Bumme" gang and how it seemed like all of U.K. was crazy about him. Anyone that couldn't see right through what he was about from day 1 was blind.

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    It just continues to amaze me how some fans can't wait to hear about something on a team that is not their favorite,. Should you want to beat them.......get better,play better. I personally want to beat opponets bc my team is better, not bc they got penalized in some way. Should a school deserve it then that is different but don't go around hoping for someone to go down, imo all that does is show what a person/fan that does that is all about......not much,

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    The correct answer is....... The O$U.... nobody seemed to guess that one.

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