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    Want the years? Bama is looking into the writers claims. If something is found where boosters paid money to a recruit...what do you do? Can't control stupid people. Boosters got us in trouble back in the early 2000. Just as long coaches are not doing it or lying about their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    Want the years? Bama is looking into the writers claims. If something is found where boosters paid money to a recruit...what do you do? Can't control stupid people. Boosters got us in trouble back in the early 2000. Just as long coaches are not doing it or lying about their actions.
    Yes, would love the years. Everything I've ever seen credits The Tide with 8 National Championships.

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    There they are and counted, to be fair 1973 was awarded before the bowl games as was all the ones before 1973. We lost in the Sugar Bowl and should not be counted, but we didn't give it to ourselves. And in 1966 we went 12-0 and recieved nothing after Norte Dame went 9-0-1 and won a NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
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    The following table contains the National Championships that have been recognized by the AP or Coaches' Poll. The BCS champion is automatically awarded the Coaches' Poll championship. Of the current 120 Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS, formerly I-A Division) schools, only 30 have won at least a share of a national title. Of these 30 teams, only 18 teams have won multiple titles. Of the 18 teams, only seven have won five or more national titles: Alabama, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, USC, Miami, Nebraska, and Ohio State. The years listed in the table below indicate a national championship selection by the AP or Coaches' Poll. The selections are noted with (AP) or (Coaches) when a national champion selection differed between the two polls for that particular season, which has occurred in eleven different seasons since the polls first came to coexist in 1950.
    <table id="sortable_table_id_2" class="wikitable sortable" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr> <th width="*">School</th> <th width="*">Championships</th> <th width="*">Seasons</th> </tr> <tr> <td>Alabama</td> <td>8</td> <td>1961, 1964, 1965 (AP), 1973 (Coaches), 1978 (AP), 1979, 1992, 2009</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Notre Dame</td> <td>8</td> <td>1943, 1946, 1947, 1949, 1966, 1973 (AP), 1977, 1988</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Oklahoma</td> <td>7</td> <td>1950, 1955, 1956, 1974 (AP), 1975, 1985, 2000</td> </tr> <tr> <td>USC</td> <td>7</td> <td>1962, 1967, 1972, 1974 (Coaches), 1978 (Coaches), 2003 (AP), 2004</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Miami</td> <td>5</td> <td>1983, 1987, 1989, 1991 (AP), 2001</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Nebraska</td> <td>5</td> <td>1970 (AP), 1971, 1994, 1995, 1997 (Coaches)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Ohio State</td> <td>5</td> <td>1942, 1954 (AP), 1957 (Coaches), 1968, 2002</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Minnesota</td> <td>4</td> <td>1936, 1940, 1941, 1960</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Texas</td> <td>4</td> <td>1963, 1969, 1970 (Coaches), 2005</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Florida</td> <td>3</td> <td>1996, 2006, 2008</td> </tr> <tr> <td>LSU</td> <td>3</td> <td>1958, 2003 (Coaches), 2007</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Army</td> <td>2</td> <td>1944, 1945</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Auburn</td> <td>2</td> <td>1957 (AP), 2010</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Florida State</td> <td>2</td> <td>1993, 1999</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Michigan</td> <td>2</td> <td>1948, 1997 (AP)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Michigan State</td> <td>2</td> <td>1952, 1965 (Coaches)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Penn State</td> <td>2</td> <td>1982, 1986</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Pittsburgh</td> <td>2</td> <td>1937, 1976</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Tennessee</td> <td>2</td> <td>1951, 1998</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Colorado</td> <td>1</td> <td>1990 (AP)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Georgia Tech</td> <td>1</td> <td>1990 (Coaches)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>BYU</td> <td>1</td> <td>1984</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Clemson</td> <td>1</td> <td>1981</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Georgia</td> <td>1</td> <td>1980</td> </tr> <tr> <td>UCLA</td> <td>1</td> <td>1954 (Coaches)</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Maryland</td> <td>1</td> <td>1953</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Syracuse</td> <td>1</td> <td>1959</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Texas A&M</td> <td>1</td> <td>1939</td> </tr> <tr> <td>TCU</td> <td>1</td> <td>1938</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Washington</td> <td>1</td> <td>1991 (Coaches)</td></tr></tbody></table>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    Want the years? Bama is looking into the writers claims. If something is found where boosters paid money to a recruit...what do you do? Can't control stupid people. Boosters got us in trouble back in the early 2000. Just as long coaches are not doing it or lying about their actions.
    I'm sure the coaches had nothing to do with the boosters actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    I'm sure the coaches had nothing to do with the boosters actions.
    They probably didn't even want the recruit especially after Auburn swooped in.

    I am sure this is just sour grapes...but can you imagine the compensation package UK alums could put together if UL swooped in and stole a player the caliber of Teague from UK...

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    LRCW, like I said earlier we count them because they gave them to us. The AP/BCS wasn't around in 1925/1934 etc.. I'm sure if your team or anyone else's was awarded a NC you would count it. So we count it and everyone who doesn't like it can just don't worry about it. We have thirteen of them and I accept it. I have a shirt/poster/books on the 13 and I wish we had 1966/2010.

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    National championship seasons
    1925 — The 1925 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9–0–0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Washington in the January 1, 1926 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team initially fell behind the undefeated Huskies, but rallied in the second half to defeat Washington 20–19. The outstanding player of the game was Johnny Mack Brown.[85] The 1925 Alabama football team finished the season with a 10–0–0 record and was selected national champions by the Football Annual, Billingsley, and Helms Athletic Foundation.[86]
    1926 — The 1926 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9–0–0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Stanford in the January 1, 1927 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team tied the Indians 7–7 to finish the season 9–0–1. The outstanding player of the game was Fred Pickhard.[85] The 1926 Alabama football team was selected national champions by Billingsley and the Helms Athletic Foundation,[86] retroactively.
    1930 — The 1930 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Wallace Wade, completed the regular season 9–0–0, winning the Southern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Washington State in the January 1, 1931 Rose Bowl. Coach Wade's team defeated the Cougars 24–0 to finish the season 10–0–0. The outstanding player of the game was John Campbell.[85] The 1930 Alabama football team tied with Notre Dame as national champions in the Davis poll.[86]
    1934 — The 1934 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Frank Thomas, completed the regular season 9–0–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Stanford in the January 1, 1935 Rose Bowl. Coach Thomas' team defeated the Indians 29–13 to finish the season 10–0–0. The outstanding player of the game was Millard "Dixie" Howell.[85] The 1934 Alabama football team was selected national champions by Dunkel, Houlgate, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus.[86] The University of Alabama honored Ben McLeod, Jr., the 95–year–old former backup End of the 1934 team at the September 6, 2008 Alabama–Tulane game.[87]
    1941 — The 1941 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Frank Thomas, completed the regular season 8–2–0. Alabama's squad finished 3rd in the Southeastern Conference[88][89] after suffering losses to Mississippi State and Vanderbilt. Alabama was then invited to play Texas A&M in the January 1, 1942 Cotton Bowl Classic. Coach Thomas' team defeated the Aggies 29–21 to finish the season 9–2–0. The outstanding players of the game were Holt Rast, Don Whitmire, and Jimmy Nelson.[85] The squad was selected national champions by the Houlgate Poll and published in the nationally syndicated Football Thesaurus.[86] The Tide finished the season ranked 20th in the AP Poll.[90]
    1961 — The 1961 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 10–0–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Led by quarterback Pat Trammell, linebacker Lee Roy Jordan and two–way lineman Billy Neighbors, Alabama outscored their opponents 297–25. Alabama was then invited to play the #9–ranked Arkansas Razorbacks in the January 1, 1962 Sugar Bowl. Coach Bryant's team defeated the Razorbacks 10–3 to finish the season 11–0–0. The outstanding player of the game was Mike Fracchia.[85] The 1961 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP and Coaches' Polls.[86]
    1964 — The 1964 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 10–0–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Alabama was led by quarterback Joe Namath. Alabama was then invited to play the Texas Longhorns in the January 1, 1965 Orange Bowl. Coach Bryant's team lost to the Longhorns 21–17 to finish the season 10–1–0. The outstanding player of the game was Joe Namath.[85] The 1964 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP and Coaches' Polls prior to bowl games.[86] Because of the controversy with Alabama being selected over undefeated Arkansas, the AP Poll decided to wait until after the bowl games to select their champion in the 1965 season.
    1965 — The 1965 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 8–1–1, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. The Tide lost to Georgia and tied Tennessee during the regular season. Alabama was then invited to play Nebraska in the January 1, 1966 Orange Bowl. Coach Bryant's team defeated the Cornhuskers 39–28 to finish the season 9–1–1. The outstanding player of the game was Steve Sloan.[85] The 1965 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP Poll.[86]
    1973 — The 1973 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 11–0–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. Alabama was then invited to play Notre Dame in the December 31, 1973 Sugar Bowl. Coach Bryant's team lost to the Fighting Irish 24–23 to finish the season 11–1–0. The 1973 Alabama football team was selected national champions in the final Coaches' Poll prior to the bowl games.[86] Because of the controversy after the bowl loss, the Coaches' Poll began selecting their champion after the bowl games starting in 1974. The AP poll placed Alabama 4th, and selected Notre Dame as its top team after the season.[91]
    1978 — The 1978 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 10–1–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. The Tide defeated #10–ranked Nebraska 20–3, and defeated #11–ranked Missouri 38–20, and lost to Southern Cal during the regular season. Alabama was then invited to play #1–ranked Penn State in the January 1, 1979 Sugar Bowl. Coach Bryant's team defeated the Nittany Lions 14–7 to finish the season 11–1–0. The outstanding player of the game was linebacker Barry Krauss.[85] The 1978 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP Poll.[86]
    1979 — The 1979 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Bear Bryant, completed the regular season 11–0–0, winning the Southeastern Conference championship. The Tide defeated #18–ranked Tennessee 27–17, and defeated #14–ranked Auburn University 25–18 during the regular season. Alabama was then invited to play #6–ranked Arkansas in the January 1, 1980 Sugar Bowl. Coach Bryant's team defeated the Razorbacks 24–9 to finish the season 12–0–0. The outstanding player of the game was running back Major Ogilvie.[85] The 1979 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP and Coaches' Polls.[86]
    1992 — The 1992 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Gene Stallings, completed the regular season 11–0–0. They then defeated #12–ranked Florida in the inaugural SEC Championship Game, defeating the Gators 28–21; the win gave Alabama its 20th SEC title and a record of 12–0–0. Alabama was then invited to play #1–ranked Miami, led by Heisman trophy winner Gino Torretta, in the January 1, 1993 Sugar Bowl. Coach Stallings' team defeated the Hurricanes 34–13 to finish the season 13–0–0. The outstanding player of the game was Derrick Lassic.[85] The 1992 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP and Coaches' Polls.[86]
    2009 — The 2009 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, coached by Nick Saban, finished with a 12–0 regular season. In the 12 wins, the Crimson Tide defeated four teams that were ranked at the time, including an opening day victory over #7 Virginia Tech in Atlanta. The team headed back to the Georgia Dome in December to face off against #1 Florida in the SEC Championship Game. They defeated the Gators 32–13 in a rematch of the previous year's championship.[79] Alabama then traveled to Pasadena to face #2-ranked Texas in the 2010 BCS National Championship Game at the Rose Bowl. Alabama's Heisman winning running back Mark Ingram rushed for 116 yards and two touchdowns in a 37–21 win.[80] Ingram was named the game's offensive MVP in Alabama's first BCS victory. The 2009 Alabama football team was selected national champions by the AP and Coaches' Polls. The 2009 squad became the first FBS division team to defeat six teams ranked in the AP Top 25 during one season and received a record six first team AP All-America selections.

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    Take away the 1973 and give us 1966.

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    For the Alabama title count isn't that like the question of "if a tree falls in the words, does it make a sound"? If a team counts a national championship, but no one else credits them for it does it really count? For Bama fans sure, but for the sake of the argument between college football fans I don't see how it does. The NCAA recognizes championships with the same criteria for every school, not just discounting Alabama, so I think the offical count should be used in discussion. JMO

    If Bama is going to count 13, I'm going to give Miami 6 because they got robbed in 2000 when the team they beat FSU somehow jumped them to win the title, and there was no way either of those two teams would have beat them IMO. And UK in 1951 when a poll gave them a national championship for their season, when most gave it to Oklahoma.

    Miami has 6 titles!!!!! UK has a national title!!!!

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    Miami, wrong. Uk I agree. Bama was awarded theirs. Did you read KT posts?^^^^^ And I said something about the way it was done, but we don't claim something we didn't earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama Larry View Post
    Miami, wrong. Uk I agree. Bama was awarded theirs. Did you read KT posts?^^^^^ And I said something about the way it was done, but we don't claim something we didn't earn.
    I don't care what he posted. Bama is officially recognized for 8 championships. If you want to say they have 100,000,000 by all means be my guest. But, don't get mad when people correct you because the answer the rest of the world agrees on is 8. There is no sense in arguing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatsCatsCats View Post
    I don't care what he posted. Bama is officially recognized for 8 championships. If you want to say they have 100,000,000 by all means be my guest. But, don't get mad when people correct you because the answer the rest of the world agrees on is 8. There is no sense in arguing that.
    To be fair, even Kentucky fans don't claim "Helms" championships as legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Schue View Post
    To be fair, even Kentucky fans don't claim "Helms" championships as legit.
    That's why I went on that sarcastic rant about 4 post ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatsCatsCats View Post
    I don't care what he posted. Bama is officially recognized for 8 championships. If you want to say they have 100,000,000 by all means be my guest. But, don't get mad when people correct you because the answer the rest of the world agrees on is 8. There is no sense in arguing that.

    Kinda reminds me about the All "A" Classic argument a while back, only this time there is just 1 person arguing against the same point I was making.

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