Cincinnati At A Crossroads

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    Cincinnati At A Crossroads

    With the 2010-2011-basketball season in the books the topic of discussion among Cincinnati fans has turned to the contract status of head coach Mick Cronin. The fact that Cronin and Cincinnati Director of Athletics Mike Thomas are discussing a contract extension is not a surprising development because Cronin has taken the program from nothing to a solid seed line and a win in the Big Dance.


    This issue isn't about Cronin fattening his pockets. It’s about getting the support he needs to continue the progress the program has made during his tenure at Cincinnati.

    Cronin isn't asking to be paid like the Hall Of Fame coaches in the conference, and he isn't expecting a cash strapped athletic department to suddenly spend like Louisville – who had a basketball budget of $9,089,769 in 2009. What Cronin is asking for is an increased budget and improvements to facilities that would put Cincinnati on par with the middle of the pack programs in the Big East.

    In 2009-2010 school year, the Cincinnati budget for men’s basketball was $3,754,077. By comparison, Pittsburgh, who I feel is a fair comparison to Cincinnati, had a budget of $6,046,724.00. Only South Florida with a budget of $3,215,424 spent less than Cincinnati.

    Since the 2007 season, Cronin has seen his budget cut from a high of $5,528,040 to an all-time low of $3,754,077.00 in 2009. Even though the budget has decreased, the expectations from the administration and the fans has increased. Is it fair to expect things to continue to improve when the funding for the program is slowly dwindling away?


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    For those that don't know, this is my opinion on the situation at UC...

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    I'm very unfamiliar with UC athletics and really have no ties at all to the school---I still found this to be an enjoyable read. Nice work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    I'm very unfamiliar with UC athletics and really have no ties at all to the school---I still found this to be an enjoyable read. Nice work.
    Thanks...

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    Looking back.......was it perhaps a mistake to join the Big East? Sounds like UC wants to keep up with the "Joneses", and simply don't have the resources to do so. No bashing here, just a question. How is Cronin being paid in comparison to Huggins when he was at UC? How much is Mick asking for? Is that why the contract is being held up? I know the basement practice gym is something Mick wants changed or upgraded, but the AD seems to think it's just fine. What other items are they not seeing eye to eye on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanEmpire View Post
    Looking back.......was it perhaps a mistake to join the Big East? Sounds like UC wants to keep up with the "Joneses", and simply don't have the resources to do so. No bashing here, just a question. How is Cronin being paid in comparison to Huggins when he was at UC? How much is Mick asking for? Is that why the contract is being held up? I know the basement practice gym is something Mick wants changed or upgraded, but the AD seems to think it's just fine. What other items are they not seeing eye to eye on?
    Cronin is making a little under a mil a season, and while a raise is in order, it would likely be a bump to just over a mil. Like I said in the article, this has little to do with Mick wanting to get paid.

    If I remember correctly Huggs was making about a mil and a half for a good part of his latter years, and the final 2 seasons in CUSA the budget was in the 5.3 mil range.

    It is about being funded in a manner that meets the expectations. Mike Thomas expects what happened this season or better, but is funding the program well below who they have to compete against to get there. Mick wants that commitment level to go from the bottom of the pack to the middle...

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    Definitely a good read GT...funny that you wrote about this cause a couple of buddies and mine were discussing UC's budget for bball and how it was the lowest (guess we were one team off) in the Big East.

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    GT may be able to correct me on this, but I'd be willing to bet Mick would take less money for more to be funded to the basketball program. It's amazing that the budget has declined the way it has but yet the success has gone up.

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    Can't UC get any corporate/community support to help with facilities, etc.,..........or is that against the University's principles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    Can't UC get any corporate/community support to help with facilities, etc.,..........or is that against the University's principles?
    They can, just haven't. That's part of what I'm talking about in the article in regards to lack of fund raising...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime View Post
    They can, just haven't. That's part of what I'm talking about in the article in regards to lack of fund raising...
    As referred to in your article, at USF, AD Doug Woolard's staff have proven to be a tireless fund raisers. The practice facility you mention, the Muma Center, which opens soon, is part of a 33.5 million dollar upgrade to the entire athletic district. This includes the new Morsoni Football Practice facility, new Red McEwen Baseball Stadium, new Softball Statium, new soccer stadium, renovation to the tennis facilities, and a new dining hall.

    On top of that, the Unstoppable campaign has raised over $400 million for academic facilities and the Florida Board of Regents has recently approved financing for a major renovation of the Sun Dome to make it, not The Yum Center, but comparable to the rest of the Big East.

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    Man, whoever wrote that joke of an article is crazy ....Just kidding GT . Good work, it was an interesting read and very informative about the situation at UC.

    Hope they get things figured out. I miss the old days when UC had a dominant program under Huggy Bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamprat View Post
    As referred to in your article, at USF, AD Doug Woolard's staff have proven to be a tireless fund raisers. The practice facility you mention, the Muma Center, which opens soon, is part of a 33.5 million dollar upgrade to the entire athletic district. This includes the new Morsoni Football Practice facility, new Red McEwen Baseball Stadium, new Softball Statium, new soccer stadium, renovation to the tennis facilities, and a new dining hall.

    On top of that, the Unstoppable campaign has raised over $400 million for academic facilities and the Florida Board of Regents has recently approved financing for a major renovation of the Sun Dome to make it, not The Yum Center, but comparable to the rest of the Big East.
    What has USF done in terms of corporate sponsorship???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanEmpire View Post
    Looking back.......was it perhaps a mistake to join the Big East? Sounds like UC wants to keep up with the "Joneses", and simply don't have the resources to do so. No bashing here, just a question. How is Cronin being paid in comparison to Huggins when he was at UC? How much is Mick asking for? Is that why the contract is being held up? I know the basement practice gym is something Mick wants changed or upgraded, but the AD seems to think it's just fine. What other items are they not seeing eye to eye on?
    The move to th BE was for the football program. It has worked out nicely

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    Quote Originally Posted by gametime View Post
    What has USF done in terms of corporate sponsorship???
    I'm sorry, I forgot about this. Here you go...


    2010-11 Sponsor List


    BTW, the renovations to the Sun Dome started this week. Come on down next year and I'll buy you an adult beverage in the new Court Side Cabana.

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