The Kennedys

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    The Kennedys

    Fairly controversial miniseries that was originally to be broadcast on History. Was pulled from there (amid some suggestion that surviving Kennedy family members put pressure on them to pull it, check the Wikipedia article about it), was bandied about to several networks including Showtime who declined and finally ended up on Reelz. The first 2 episodes aired Sunday and gave Reelz it's highest ratings ever. Anyone else watch. I just happened to see an ad while surfing and set my DVR to get it. Just finished watching. I have to say it was pretty good. I don't know how historically accurate it is but it was entertaining. I could defiantly see where there may be feathers ruffled. Joe Kennedy Sr. shown as a egotist who felt he was owed the presidency. Joe Jr. was shown as an ambitious person who bore some resentment to Jack because of Jack's war hero status. Jack shown as a womanizer who really didn't want to be in politics but was pushed there by his father after Joe Jr.s death to claim the families birth rite, the presidency. Bobby as sort of wimpy but never the less the strongest family man and Jackie being willing to put up with Jack's "dalliances" to insure his political success. Interested to see how it shows JFK's presidency.
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    I don't know why the History Channel would pull this series. They sure don't have much trouble showing other material that is not exactly historically accurate.

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    From All Tell's summary it seems that it is historically accurate. Nothing mentioned that hasn't been reported before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    From All Tell's summary it seems that it is historically accurate. Nothing mentioned that hasn't been reported before.
    I'm not saying it isn't accurate. It's just a little hypocritical of The History Channel to not show it. They certainly don't mind bending the truth in many of their other programs they air imo. In this case they wouldn't have to do much "bending".

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    What little bit I saw the other night, I think Peppers as Bobby Kennedy is right on with accent and persona. I didn't see him as "wimpy" but cerebral. Of all the brothers, Bobby was my favorite and IMO would have made the best president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Professor View Post
    I'm not saying it isn't accurate. It's just a little hypocritical of The History Channel to not show it. They certainly don't mind bending the truth in many of their other programs they air imo. In this case they wouldn't have to do much "bending".
    I'm with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    What little bit I saw the other night, I think Peppers as Bobby Kennedy is right on with accent and persona. I didn't see him as "wimpy" but cerebral. Of all the brothers, Bobby was my favorite and IMO would have made the best president.
    I think you're right. Rather than being "wimpy" he had quite a reputation as something of a pit bull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    What little bit I saw the other night, I think Peppers as Bobby Kennedy is right on with accent and persona. I didn't see him as "wimpy" but cerebral. Of all the brothers, Bobby was my favorite and IMO would have made the best president.
    That's probably a better description. I couldn't really come up with a good adjective for him. It is portrayed as being all about who's oldest in Joe Sr's eyes. Sr. wanted to be president himself but when that fell through he anointed Joe Jr. and everyone else in the family was going to do whatever it took to elevate him politically, then when he died Jack took that spot. Joe Jr was portrayed as the one with political ambition. Both Jack and Bobby seemed to want none of it. I'm interested to see how much behind the scenes controlling of JFK's presidency Joe Sr. will be shown to do as well as how much influence he had on Bobby's decision to run for President in 1968. I'm also very interested to see Joe Sr's reaction to the deaths of his 2 sons. I had to check, he did survive both of them. Maybe that's where the controversy is going to come in because I didn't see anything in the first 2 episodes that warranted any controversy.

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    Joe Sr. had little influence on Bobby in '68 IMO. By then Joe had a stroke that left him speechless if I recall correctly. (in fact, after looking it up, Joe had the stroke during JFK's first year in the White House) Bobby ran in '68 when LBJ quit. He saw the country unravelling at that point and saw an opportnity to use his name and charm and collect the momentum Eugene McCarthy had created vs. the establishment in the Democratic Party.

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    I watched a behind the scenes show on Reelz today and they speculated on if (or how) the Kennedy family of the 1950's & 60's would stand up to the media scrutiny of today. Can you imagine media outlets just ignoring things the way it appears they did with JFK?

    One thing I learned (not from the mini but rather researching the mini) was that the Kennedy's had a daughter named Kathleen who Rose basically disowned becuase she married a non-Catholic. Joe Jr. was the only family member to attend her wedding. She was killed in a plane crash in the late 40's and the only member of the family to attend her funeral was Joe Sr. I knew about daughter Rosemary who Joe had lobotomized because of her mood swings in her early 20's. She was basically left with a childs mentality and was instututionalized for the rest of her life. Can you even imagine the modern press turning a blind eye to those types of things in a modern politician or political family?

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