Police Pepper Spray 8 Yr Old

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    On Wednesday, Mandy Elliott said she wished authorities had chosen to talk him down. She also wanted police to get special training in dealing with children.
    Having raised a child with these problems, I'd like to recommend that the mother get special training on how to deal with her son, not the police. In fact, if he continues to be a problem, I have no objection to the police billing her for their time doing her job.
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    I don't see a big deal here? The mother tells the kid he probably deserved it, the kid later said that as well. If I am not mistaken the mother is saying sh just wants the police to get special training on how to deal with children? I agree all police officers should know how to deal with them! So again what is the big deal?

    But people saying things about the mother such as "she is a piece if work" and "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"? No one knows anything about thus mother. U guess you all will also say the same about Swamp since he said he has had a child with these problems? Why do people automaticly blame the parents? I am sure they are tired and frustrated with attempting to handle their child and not sitting there allowing the kid to do whatever they want or not try to correct them

    That saying "until you walk in someone elses shoes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsGuy41017 View Post
    I don't see a big deal here? The mother tells the kid he probably deserved it, the kid later said that as well. If I am not mistaken the mother is saying sh just wants the police to get special training on how to deal with children? I agree all police officers should know how to deal with them! So again what is the big deal?

    But people saying things about the mother such as "she is a piece if work" and "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"? No one knows anything about thus mother. U guess you all will also say the same about Swamp since he said he has had a child with these problems? Why do people automaticly blame the parents? I am sure they are tired and frustrated with attempting to handle their child and not sitting there allowing the kid to do whatever they want or not try to correct them

    That saying "until you walk in someone elses shoes"
    The big deal is that the mom says the kid probably deserved it, and then went on to say that what the police did was excessive and that her kid was treated like a "common criminal". The fact of the matter is, the kid is lucky all he got was pepper spray. He had a sharp object and told police he wanted to kill them. He needs to learn that is a big no no.

    No one is arguing that the woman is a piece of work because she has a child with anger problems. They're arguing she's a piece of work because of the way she handles her child with anger problems. The police don't need special training to deal with these types of kids. The dealt with him just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    The big deal is that the mom says the kid probably deserved it, and then went on to say that what the police did was excessive and that her kid was treated like a "common criminal". The fact of the matter is, the kid is lucky all he got was pepper spray. He had a sharp object and told police he wanted to kill them. He needs to learn that is a big no no.

    No one is arguing that the woman is a piece of work because she has a child with anger problems. They're arguing she's a piece of work because of the way she handles her child with anger problems. The police don't need special training to deal with these types of kids. The dealt with him just fine.

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    I think its great... Bet he acts different next time the police give him an order or maybe when he is told that if he doesn't stop they will call the police.

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    The mom says they treated him like a "common criminal" - and he was acting like one. He was disregarding direct orders from a police officer while brandishing a weapon and he was pepper sprayed. Good move on the response. If they waited and tried to "talk him down", they could have risked injury to the kid or anyone else around. If they tried to subdue him otherwise, it would have risked injury through the alternate means of subduing him. They made the best decision they could given the situation.

    My question is, if the cops have now been called 3 times on this kid, how many more times does it take until it's back on the mom to seek alternate means of educating him where he won't be presenting a danger to anyone? Especially when he's saying "It's just who I am. I think it's not ever gonna go away." and seemingly accepting his anger problems, why is it not a problem to have him in the presence of other kids in school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportsGuy41017 View Post
    I don't see a big deal here? The mother tells the kid he probably deserved it, the kid later said that as well. If I am not mistaken the mother is saying sh just wants the police to get special training on how to deal with children? I agree all police officers should know how to deal with them! So again what is the big deal?

    But people saying things about the mother such as "she is a piece if work" and "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree"? No one knows anything about thus mother. U guess you all will also say the same about Swamp since he said he has had a child with these problems? Why do people automaticly blame the parents? I am sure they are tired and frustrated with attempting to handle their child and not sitting there allowing the kid to do whatever they want or not try to correct them

    That saying "until you walk in someone elses shoes"
    Notice that I was critical of the mother, too. First off, it happened more than once. Second she took the cops to task for being excessive, publicly. Third, nowhere did I find where she took responsibility for her son's actions. Discipline begins at home and is not the responsibility of anyone, but the parents. Forth is her disregard for safety of those surrounding him.

    I have news for her. If this is her attitude going forward, good luck, cause she's in for a bumpy ride.

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    The kid and mother admit to anger issues. The video says that he is not on meds, but seeing a doctor about the anger.

    The kid also says, "its just who I am". I would not want my kid in class with him if that is "just who I am"!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    So he had a sharp object in his hand and he was violently angry, right? Why is it a problem that he was pepper sprayed? The kid is lucky it didnt end worse for him. And from now on he should have more respect for people like his teachers and the police.

    And I think his mom should he more worried about fixing her kids anger problems before he does something worse, and less worried about the police doing their job.

    Lastly, I'll say this. It doesnt matter how old a person is. 85 years old or 8 years old, if they are holding a weapon or resisting the police then they get what they get. I'm absolutely not saying police should beat someone excessively, but they have to do what they have to do.
    I agree, I saw this and told my girlfriend pepper spray is intended to make someone incompacitatated to allow officers to detain them. The other option is force, thru striking etc, the kid would likely have had bruises, breaks and so on had the officers gone that route and I'm sure we all know how that would be viewed.

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    I'm sure there would have been need for pepper spray if paddling was still allowed in schools, but I see no problem with how the police handled the situation. I'm sure it won't be his last run in with the police.

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    I didn't read the article....but why don't we ever hear about all the great things are policemen/women do for us? It never seems to be publicized.

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    The only thing missing here is his middle name. And a father in the household. I'll bet my next check that mom has never spanked little Lee Harvey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockPride View Post
    I didn't read the article....but why don't we ever hear about all the great things are policemen/women do for us? It never seems to be publicized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swamprat View Post
    Having raised a child with these problems, I'd like to recommend that the mother get special training on how to deal with her son, not the police. In fact, if he continues to be a problem, I have no objection to the police billing her for their time doing her job.
    Special training is called break out the belt!

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    I was discussing this incident the other day at work, when some asked "How do you pepper spray an 8 year old?" I told her you just have to aim a little llower than when you spray an adult.

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