Jul 31, 17, 05:18 PM #1
Understanding RevelationI post this link because Mike Gorman was a fellow 1973 Glen Burnie (MD) High School graduate.
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Jul 31, 17, 06:22 PM #2Probably not. In addition to feasting on this:
John clearly was consuming a lot of these:
Aug 2, 17, 01:04 PM #3@mcpapa
I think the first few chapters are easier because they are letters written to churches discussing good things and bad things. The other chapters have a mixture of ambiguous and unambiguous symbolism.
Its really not that hard if you focus on what is clear as opposed to what is unclear.
For example, it is clear that the seven lamposts are churches and the Son of Man that walks among them is Jesus.
So what is the message? Jesus is active in the church.
We have no idea why the son of man is wearing a robe to his feet, has a golden sash, eyes of fire, or hair as white as snow.
What we do know is that the Son of Man is Jesus and that the lampstands are churches.
People get confused with trying to interpret things that we can't possibly understand. So when I read revelation I focus on the big picture.
Imagine taking a magnifying glass to the Louvre and someone put a picture in front of you. You can only look through the magnifying glass at a close up distance. You would have no shot at figuring out what the picture is. If you take a step back and view the picture in its entirety you could then see that is was the Mona Lisa.
When reading the different little scenarios in Revelation, just look at the story as a whole and focus on what you know for fact. Then, while still complicated, it is not too complicated to understand.
Aug 3, 17, 08:39 PM #4
Something to help with the strange visions etc. is to remember it is a certain genre of literature called apocalyptic. This kind of imagery and cataclysmic occurrence is common in this genre of literature. It is probable that those who were receiving the Book of Revelation as its first readers understood the imagery much better than we do removed by so many centuries and detached from the circumstance in life to which it was first addressed.
PP1 gives some good advice about how to approach it with understanding.
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Aug 6, 17, 09:53 PM #7Btw, I am not the first person to suggest that maybe the Gospel writer not named Matthew, Mark , or Luke was under the influence of hallucinogens.
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Aug 7, 17, 03:42 AM #10The four Gospels have always been my favorite books of the Bible to read, but I've always found it interesting to try to make sense of the Bible's 66th book.
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about end times prophecy almost two years ago.
I consider myself to be a deeply, deeply spiritual person. I feel that connection to the Universal Source(God, if you will) every time I look to the heavens and breathe in the magnificence of the cosmos. Admittedly, I do have serious problems with man's religions, including the various religious texts that are considered by so many to be divinely inspired documents. The spiritual part of me is very much real and very important to me.
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