Millennials Leaving the Church

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    . Its why all the party churches are booming right now.
    I usually just ignore you, but I will ask on this one - what is a party church?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengal Maniac View Post
    You know I have so many snowflakes that I make a pretty good sized snowball, even some say that I have enough to make me the Abominal Snowman. However, that isn't one of my snowflakes.

    I will not belong to any church, organization, religion, etc that I can choose, where I am uncomfortable or will be uncomfortable.

    There are enough uncomfortable things in my life where I have no control, so I will not choose one where anything that will make me that. If a church makes me uncomfortable or says things that do, then I will find one that doesn't and there are those. That doesn't mean I have made choices that made me uncomfortable, I have, I imagine we all have. But I don't choose that unless it has to be that way or out of my control. Church is not either of those.

    Christianity to me is a joy and a blessing to me. Not a fearful or hurtful or judgmental place that some I have experienced are. If that is a persons cup of tea, good for them.

    Why millineals choose not to go to church is probaby multifaceted, but most likely it is just the age they are.
    Your first response was terse, so in reply, I reciprocated. Since you've thoughtfully elaborated, I will as well.

    When I said "uncomfortable", I wasn't meaning a physical discomfort (tho sitting in a hard pew or kneeling on an uncomfortable kneeler may be a mental notation of the physical sacrifices Jesus made). What I meant was the Church has asked us to do things that most feel uncomfortable (or uneasy) doing .... working with the poor, feeding the hungry, visiting the imprisoned, tithing, fasting. Some people (not all) think that going to a mega church, drinking coffee and listening to rock music for an hour is sufficient.

    I'm not a preacher or theologian, or pretend to be. But as a follower of Christ, I'm asked to evangelize on his behalf. And sometimes that is uncomfortable. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsayin View Post
    Your first response was terse, so in reply, I reciprocated. Since you've thoughtfully elaborated, I will as well.

    When I said "uncomfortable", I wasn't meaning a physical discomfort (tho sitting in a hard pew or kneeling on an uncomfortable kneeler may be a mental notation of the physical sacrifices Jesus made). What I meant was the Church has asked us to do things that most feel uncomfortable (or uneasy) doing .... working with the poor, feeding the hungry, visiting the imprisoned, tithing, fasting. Some people (not all) think that going to a mega church, drinking coffee and listening to rock music for an hour is sufficient.

    I'm not a preacher or theologian, or pretend to be. But as a follower of Christ, I'm asked to evangelize on his behalf. And sometimes that is uncomfortable. That's all.
    You mean like having to shake hands with everyone around you? I hate that more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsayin View Post
    Your first response was terse, so in reply, I reciprocated. Since you've thoughtfully elaborated, I will as well.

    When I said "uncomfortable", I wasn't meaning a physical discomfort (tho sitting in a hard pew or kneeling on an uncomfortable kneeler may be a mental notation of the physical sacrifices Jesus made). What I meant was the Church has asked us to do things that most feel uncomfortable (or uneasy) doing .... working with the poor, feeding the hungry, visiting the imprisoned, tithing, fasting. Some people (not all) think that going to a mega church, drinking coffee and listening to rock music for an hour is sufficient.

    I'm not a preacher or theologian, or pretend to be. But as a follower of Christ, I'm asked to evangelize on his behalf. And sometimes that is uncomfortable. That's all.
    Sorry didn't mean to appear terse. I was not trying to be. I am not uncomfortable doing and helping others, no matter the dlemma and I don't have to be in a church to do that. I am uncomfortable being judged by others who have no idea what they are judging or whom or judging others. Judging and condemning lifestyles, values, etc makes me uncomfortable or a better word might be disrespecting them
    Churches that do that turn me off. I beleieve that gets many millennial , also.

    I never took it to be physical uncomfortable either. Not being terse again. The written stuff is sometimes difficult to express how you really are conveying the message..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird View Post
    I usually just ignore you, but I will ask on this one - what is a party church?
    The big non denominational mega churches. Like the one off the interstate there in florence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justsayin View Post
    Your first response was terse, so in reply, I reciprocated. Since you've thoughtfully elaborated, I will as well.

    When I said "uncomfortable", I wasn't meaning a physical discomfort (tho sitting in a hard pew or kneeling on an uncomfortable kneeler may be a mental notation of the physical sacrifices Jesus made). What I meant was the Church has asked us to do things that most feel uncomfortable (or uneasy) doing .... working with the poor, feeding the hungry, visiting the imprisoned, tithing, fasting. Some people (not all) think that going to a mega church, drinking coffee and listening to rock music for an hour is sufficient.

    I'm not a preacher or theologian, or pretend to be. But as a follower of Christ, I'm asked to evangelize on his behalf. And sometimes that is uncomfortable. That's all.
    @Oldbird, see above, party church.

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    I am Catholic. I went to church minimum once a week for 18 years, three days a week during school years. I didn't go for almost five years minus weddings and funerals. Went back on a regular Sunday mass and it was identical as when I was in first grade. Catholic Church is status symbol in my opinion, something we should be doing not necessarily want to do. If the Catholic Church cared about our schools so much how come the Vatican doesn't use its tremendous wealth to build homeless shelters? Bail out parishes operating in the negative? It's outdated. That's why non-denominational congregations are booming. You can be a great person and be allowed into heaven without having to tip the plate $60 a week. I go to mass maybe ten times a year and I know I'm a far better human than half of other parishoners

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    Knowledge is power as well. Back, even in the 50s and 60s, children were being taught about heaven and hell in such a way to terrify them into toeing the line.

    With the age of the internet and spread of knowledge from other parts of the globe, I for one, finally realized I'm not the only one who thinks the church is not a crock per se, but taking itself way to seriously. I can get more out of watching Joel Olsteen or the homeless guy downtown preaching, than sitting in church impatiently waiting for it to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    The big non denominational mega churches. Like the one off the interstate there in florence.
    Have you ever been to the church you don't know the name of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird View Post
    Have you ever been to the church you don't know the name of?
    I haven't been to Seven Hills, but I have been to Crossroads once, and I'd say party church is a very accurate description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I haven't been to Seven Hills, but I have been to Crossroads once, and I'd say party church is a very accurate description.
    I guess if a party church is a "big non denominational mega churches. Like the one off the interstate there in Florence". Then we would fit that definition.

    UKMF: Is that your definition as well or are you using your incredibly small sample size to make your own determination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird View Post
    I guess if a party church is a "big non denominational mega churches. Like the one off the interstate there in Florence". Then we would fit that definition.

    UKMF: Is that your definition as well or are you using your incredibly small sample size to make your own determination?
    Sister-in-Law is a member of Crossroads. We've went once with them, and she's also shared various things they do on a weekly basis. I think party church is a good definition. I've never been to Seven Hills, so I can't comment on them specifically, but it's my understanding that they are very similar to Crossroads.

    Note, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not the type that would judge the way another decides to worship. As far as I'm concerned, if a person can find a church that they're comfortable in and engage in fellowship, I'm all for it.

    It's not the type of church for me, but if it works for others, good for them and I'm glad they've found a place of worship they feel fits their beliefs and spiritual needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Sister-in-Law is a member of Crossroads. We've went once with them, and she's also shared various things they do on a weekly basis. I think party church is a good definition. I've never been to Seven Hills, so I can't comment on them specifically, but it's my understanding that they are very similar to Crossroads.

    Note, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not the type that would judge the way another decides to worship. As far as I'm concerned, if a person can find a church that they're comfortable in and engage in fellowship, I'm all for it.

    It's not the type of church for me, but if it works for others, good for them and I'm glad they've found a place of worship they feel fits their beliefs and spiritual needs.
    Crossroads isn't for everyone, but they take a lot of shot simply because they are big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    If the Catholic Church cared about our schools so much how come the Vatican doesn't use its tremendous wealth to build homeless shelters? Bail out parishes operating in the negative?
    Have you read the Vatican's annual financial statements? I'm assuming no, the Vatican doesn't have anywhere near the wealth to do a tenth of what you are suggesting they should be doing. However, on a side note, charitable giving is one of the largest expenses of the Vatican.

    As far as bailing out parishes operating in the negative (such as my parish unfortunately), that is the parishioners responsibility first or foremost. If the parishioners cannot, then that responsibility goes to the Oridinary (Bishop, Archbishop or Cardinal) of the diocese to decide whether the parish should be assisted or the responsible thing to do is the close the parish and allow surrounding parishes to absorb the parishioners. I am not in favor of diocese and certainly not the Vatican bailing out parishes, doing so would cause parishioners to get lax in responsibility towards their own parish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbird View Post
    Have you ever been to the church you don't know the name of?
    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I haven't been to Seven Hills, but I have been to Crossroads once, and I'd say party church is a very accurate description.
    Same as UKMF, been to Crossroads a couple of times for a few events, but not the one in Florence off the Interstate.

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