afi100guy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Closings all over the state today. This will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I admittedly don't know much about this, but from what I could gather the current pension benefits of current teachers aren't changing. It seemed like it was more of an impact on future members of the profession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcats Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Schools will have to have a maintain a significant force of substitute teachers now that teachers have no incentive to accumulate sick and personal days. This will cost local districts billions. The "can" got kicked to the district in many different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I feel really bad for all of our teachers across the commonwealth. It doesn’t matter what side of the fence you are on in this pension issue. The way this has been handled is embarrassing, insulting, maddening, saddening, frustrating and pretty much any adjective you can use to describe a feeling of anger, despair and sorrow. I can’t imagine how our teachers feel and I have no clue how last night’s actions will affect education in our state going forward. It’s a sad day for our state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I understand teachers being upset that they think they are getting the raw end on this deal, even though none of us knows exactly how this impacts them yet. I don't agree with them staying home in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Can someone outline the issues that teachers have with the bill? I'm not seeing anything that is "destroying their retirement" that I've seen all over social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I feel really bad for all of our teachers across the commonwealth. It doesn’t matter what side of the fence you are on in this pension issue. The way this has been handled is embarrassing, insulting, maddening, saddening, frustrating and pretty much any adjective you can use to describe a feeling of anger, despair and sorrow. I can’t imagine how our teachers feel and I have no clue how last night’s actions will affect education in our state going forward. It’s a sad day for our state. I can agree with this being handled in the completely wrong manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjs4470 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 (edited) I feel really bad for all of our teachers across the commonwealth. It doesn’t matter what side of the fence you are on in this pension issue. The way this has been handled is embarrassing, insulting, maddening, saddening, frustrating and pretty much any adjective you can use to describe a feeling of anger, despair and sorrow. I can’t imagine how our teachers feel and I have no clue how last night’s actions will affect education in our state going forward. It’s a sad day for our state. It’s disgraceful. And my daughter is graduating with her teaching degree in a few weeks. I’m friends with and know many teachers from my decade of coaching in the schools, and they are all extremely upset. Edited March 30, 2018 by rjs4470 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Can someone outline the issues that teachers have with the bill? I'm not seeing anything that is "destroying their retirement" that I've seen all over social media. Here's some information on the bill. Kentucky pension reform: 7 things teachers need to know | Lexington Herald Leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow88 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 All because of our state government’s mismanagement of money ... what group are they going to get next when they mismanage the teachers’ money??? But this also effects state employees as well ... what if they walkout ?? Can’t trust the government , whether it’s state or federal ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Here's some information on the bill. Kentucky pension reform: 7 things teachers need to know | Lexington Herald Leader Thanks. Outside of the 35 years of service increase, I don't see anything in there that is going to negatively impact teachers or their retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelPops Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks. Outside of the 35 years of service increase, I don't see anything in there that is going to negatively impact teachers or their retirement. Current or future teachers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentschTrachtGottLacht Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks. Outside of the 35 years of service increase, I don't see anything in there that is going to negatively impact teachers or their retirement. I believe, and again, not an expert on this, that the capping of sick days towards retirement is a major issue and can ultimately cost teachers thousands per year in retirement and salary. However, I think their biggest point, and rightfully so I'll add, is the optics of attaching a 291 page bill that no one had read, and had had no actuarial review, to the back-end of a sewage bill at the 11th hour. That looks like the opposite of being "represented" by your Representatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Current or future teachers? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I believe, and again, not an expert on this, that the capping of sick days towards retirement is a major issue and can ultimately cost teachers thousands per year in retirement and salary. However, I think their biggest point, and rightfully so I'll add, is the optics of attaching a 291 page bill that no one had read, and had had no actuarial review, to the back-end of a sewage bill at the 11th hour. That looks like the opposite of being "represented" by your Representatives. I agree the way this was done is shady. As far as the sick days, is that a common thing with retirement plans? I've never seen that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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