Habib Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 We all know what happened in Las Vegas wasn't just a heinous massacre of innocent concert-goers. It was staged by a cabal of secretive and omniscient actors in service of mainstream interests I personally object to. And I've nearly gotten to the bottom of this otherworldly operation of subterfuge and deception with nothing more than an Internet connection, blogs by untalented paranoids, and a willingness to believe nearly anything that supports my pre-conceptions. Have at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegrasscard Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 VOR recommended a thread just on the theories that do not fit the official story - i.e. conspiracy theories. Without even getting into 'theories' the facts are not lining up. But in respect to keeping the original thread in the break room focused on victims, etc. I recommend moving the 'non-aligned' information on the event here. Yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plantmanky Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 He was working for the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I’ve already experienced it this morning while having my vehicle serviced. The guy working on my truck said that the man found dead in the hotel room had been dead long before the shooting began. That this was a government arranged and organized scheme and this fellow was being used as a cover-up. He said the government was slowly managing to take away all the rights of citizens. He also mentioned Sandy Hook as an example of the same kind of plot. There's simply conspiracy believing types that are going to imagine crazy stuff no matter how much evidence they are presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Sounds great. But when we say the "facts" don't line up - how do we know right now what the facts are? It's been two days and very little "official" information that I've seen shows a story that law enforcement is declaring "this is what happened." Iv'e seen a lot of internet and media conjecture but nothing straight out of the Las Vegas Police Department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluto Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Background info on Nevada. Statewide, they split elections between Republicans & Democrats. Harry Reid (D), Republican Governor/Lt. Governor. How do I know? My step-brother, Brian Krolicki, was elected twice as Lt. Governor, and is Republican. Las Vegas, on the other hand, leans heavily Democrat. Here's what I suspect: if the shooter were a registered Republican, I am confident that someone in the Democratic leadership would have leaked it by now, and it would be plastered all over the news. I tend to think that he is registered Democrat (if anything), and that info is being withheld. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Background info on Nevada. Statewide, they split elections between Republicans & Democrats. Harry Reid (D), Republican Governor/Lt. Governor. How do I know? My step-brother, Brian Krolicki, was elected twice as Lt. Governor, and is Republican. Las Vegas, on the other hand, leans heavily Democrat. Here's what I suspect: if the shooter were a registered Republican, I am confident that someone in the Democratic leadership would have leaked it by now, and it would be plastered all over the news. I tend to think that he is registered Democrat (if anything), and that info is being withheld. JMO One site reported he was a registered D but I don't know how accurate that site is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegrasscard Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Sounds great. But when we say the "facts" don't line up - how do we know right now what the facts are? It's been two days and very little "official" information that I've seen shows a story that law enforcement is declaring "this is what happened." Iv'e seen a lot of internet and media conjecture but nothing straight out of the Las Vegas Police Department. They do seem to have a challenge. As would be expected. So far I think its far to say the following is not matching up to the sketchy 'facts' as released by LVPD or FBI. - Check in date. - Leaked room service receipt shows check-in date of 25th, not 28th as indicated by police. - Guns used. - Covered in other thread. This was not done with converted ARs. Lots of other things bouncing around. The brother interviews are 'interesting' to say the least. The girlfriend coming back last night but not being taken into custody is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKMustangFan Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 They do seem to have a challenge. As would be expected. So far I think its far to say the following is not matching up to the sketchy 'facts' as released by LVPD or FBI. - Check in date. - Leaked room service receipt shows check-in date of 25th, not 28th as indicated by police. - Guns used. - Covered in other thread. This was not done with converted ARs. Lots of other things bouncing around. The brother interviews are 'interesting' to say the least. The girlfriend coming back last night but not being taken into custody is interesting. Without actually seeing the weapons recovered, not sure how you can claim what was said is factually inaccurate. Also, authorities have been with the girlfriend ever since she stepped off the plane last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 They do seem to have a challenge. As would be expected. So far I think its far to say the following is not matching up to the sketchy 'facts' as released by LVPD or FBI. - Check in date. - Leaked room service receipt shows check-in date of 25th, not 28th as indicated by police. - Guns used. - Covered in other thread. This was not done with converted ARs. Lots of other things bouncing around. The brother interviews are 'interesting' to say the least. The girlfriend coming back last night but not being taken into custody is interesting. I thought she was taken into custody for questioning. The video I saw of her at the airport showed her being escorted by uniformed officers of some type. The brother is hardly an interview as I see it. He's dumbfounded at how all this took place. Just my take. Haven't seen anything on the "leaked" room service receipt. Not sure how a room service receipt shows a "check in" date. A date of service, yes. Is there a link to that? As to weapons I haven't seen a list released by the PD but I will go back and look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Background info on Nevada. Statewide, they split elections between Republicans & Democrats. Harry Reid (D), Republican Governor/Lt. Governor. How do I know? My step-brother, Brian Krolicki, was elected twice as Lt. Governor, and is Republican. Las Vegas, on the other hand, leans heavily Democrat. Here's what I suspect: if the shooter were a registered Republican, I am confident that someone in the Democratic leadership would have leaked it by now, and it would be plastered all over the news. I tend to think that he is registered Democrat (if anything), and that info is being withheld. JMO I'm sure you are being sarcastic in this but I have to say cause there are obviously some who think this is a big deal: What does party registration have to do with any of this? :idunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatz Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 This from a yahoo story: Paddock's girlfriend returned to the United States from the Philippines late Tuesday and was met by FBI agents waiting to hear whatever she might know about the motive for the Sunday night massacre, which left 58 dead and more than 500 injured. "They're learning a lot more," Trump said of the investigation. "And that'll be announced at the appropriate time." Although the FBI was eager to talk to her, Marilou Danley, 62, is not in custody -- she is classified as a "person of interest" to investigators -- and is free to go wherever she wants, US media reported. Trump arrives in Las Vegas as FBI question shooter'''s girlfriend Story mentions meeting her at airport and then releasing her out of custody. Maybe they want to see what she does. :idunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habib Posted October 4, 2017 Author Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm sure you are being sarcastic in this but I have to say cause there are obviously some who think this is a big deal: What does party registration have to do with any of this? :idunno: I think we've totally gone off the rails as a country. It's some combination of the infotainment industry, tribalism, and the platforms of social media that's totally lobotomized us. It's a depressing state of affairs that this is what people are speculating on in the wake of such a tragedy, no doubt to chalk up a "win" for their side. It's bad enough we're warping this into our own narratives (government coverup, false flag, secret agendas, anything that confirms my beliefs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK#1fanisback Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Have they said how many people got shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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