PP1 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So as I'm walking out of the stadium to show my son the statues, I notice some street preachers yelling into a microphone near Tony Perez's statue. They are holding a sign saying that "God hates liars, fornicators, homosexuals, divorce, idolators, drunkards.... etc" then at the bottom they listed the term "catholics." What they are doing is quoting two separate verses in the Bible, but the word "Catholic" is not included in any of them. I support the right to speech and have often said that people in this country have the right to believe whatever they want; that it is that fundamental right that allows me to believe and practice what I want. But when people do stuff like this I think it makes the church look bad and makes what I stand for seem stupid and hateful. Thankfully my son was with me or I would have engaged in a theological showdown of epic proportion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Ball-fan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 So as I'm walking out of the stadium to show my son the statues, I notice some street preachers yelling into a microphone near Tony Perez's statue. They are holding a sign saying that "God hates liars, fornicators, homosexuals, divorce, idolators, drunkards.... etc" then at the bottom they listed the term "catholics." What they are doing is quoting two separate verses in the Bible, but the word "Catholic" is not included in any of them. I support the right to speech and have often said that people in this country have the right to believe whatever they want; that it is that fundamental right that allows me to believe and practice what I want. But when people do stuff like this I think it makes the church look bad and makes what I stand for seem stupid and hateful. Thankfully my son was with me or I would have engaged in a theological showdown of epic proportion. There were some as well making their way through the super packed crowd at Octoberfest on Saturday afternoon with some seriously huge signs...I wonder if they were the same ones? I don't recall exactly what their signs said, but if I remember correctly, they perhaps were dark blue in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkypete Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 As a "Catholic", I would have prayerfully had to consider showing as much as restraint as you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Ball-fan Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I always sorta wonder if what motivates them to go into large crowds, and especially one that is heavily drinking, is true concern for peoples' souls, or a desperate need for attention that is mostly served back to them with either being completely ignored, or ridiculed and told to shut up and go away? I suppose they're thinking that if they save one soul then their work is done, but Wow, I highly doubt that hardly any festive people out enjoying a beer and music with friends on a beautiful sunny afternoon are going to have an "Ah Ha" moment, and say to themselves "What was I thinking...Those guys are right, I'm a despicable deplorable sinner, and it's high time that I change my ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 In their mind, I'm sure they think they are doing the right thing. It's America. It's their right. I just don't like it, and that's my right too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankdracman23 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There were some as well making their way through the super packed crowd at Octoberfest on Saturday afternoon with some seriously huge signs...I wonder if they were the same ones? I don't recall exactly what their signs said, but if I remember correctly, they perhaps were dark blue in color. Street Preachers vs B-Ball Fan in a war of words and I'm taking B-Ball Fan all day and twice on Sunday. :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Ball-fan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Street Preachers vs B-Ball Fan in a war of words and I'm taking B-Ball Fan all day and twice on Sunday. :banana: Ha Ha..thanks for your vote of confidence. :lol2: While I do ponder how I might chat with them if I actually did, I typically think that it's just best that I don't go that rabbit hole with them. If I were to, I honestly would approach it peacefully, but the second anyone starts shouting, or repeating Bible verses in my face with zero intent to have a rational conversation, then I'm out of there. I have no concrete ultimate truth to offer them, and from where I sit, neither they to me, though they might be convinced that they do, however sharing perspectives can be enlightening if both parties agree to do it respectively. I have seen them at Pride Festivals, and if I hadn't already been with friends, I might've considered sitting down and having a rational discussion with any one of them that was willing to. At a Pride Fest their main reason for being there is the gay topic, so anyone who has heard me here know that I've got a mountain of points for them to ponder that just maybe they never have pondered before. I realize that chances would be slim that either way we'd move the needle with each other very much, but I'd be open to hear what they've got to say, and hopefully they'd hear me out as well, and that all said and done we'd walk away having respect for one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Schue Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I always sorta wonder if what motivates them to go into large crowds, and especially one that is heavily drinking, is true concern for peoples' souls, or a desperate need for attention that is mostly served back to them with either being completely ignored, or ridiculed and told to shut up and go away? I suppose they're thinking that if they save one soul then their work is done, but Wow, I highly doubt that hardly any festive people out enjoying a beer and music with friends on a beautiful sunny afternoon are going to have an "Ah Ha" moment, and say to themselves "What was I thinking...Those guys are right, I'm a despicable deplorable sinner, and it's high time that I change my ways". Helps certain people who need affirmation of the false concept that "Christians are persecuted in America." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTS_JF Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There were similar signs going in to the Bengals game Thursday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet16 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 There were similar signs going in to the Bengals game Thursday night. Bengals fans need to be saved From this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantNKY Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I saw something about the Westboro Baptist Church coming to town to protest the ABC convention at the Duke Energy Center. Is this a spillover of that? I saw them at the game on Thursday and thought they were WBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Ball-fan Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I saw something about the Westboro Baptist Church coming to town to protest the ABC convention at the Duke Energy Center. Is this a spillover of that? I saw them at the game on Thursday and thought they were WBC. I posted this video in the Ted Talk thread, but I thought that others reading this thread also might find it interesting. It's a Ted Talk from a woman who grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church and finally left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJAlltheWay24 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I saw something about the Westboro Baptist Church coming to town to protest the ABC convention at the Duke Energy Center. Is this a spillover of that? I saw them at the game on Thursday and thought they were WBC. I feel like these jokers always show up at things like Taste of Cincinnati & Oktoberfest, Opening Day, and big Bengals games. I'm not sure they are WBC, but could be I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpapa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Helps certain people who need affirmation of the false concept that "Christians are persecuted in America." Wouldn't be the first time I've heard some say that Catholics aren't Christians. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1 Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Westboro is more a "God hates Fags" thing. I did not see that particular sign. If I were convinced it was Westboro, then I would have engaged them. I've always wanted to run into to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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