bothways Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Ok it's gripe time. Having just looked at the scores for the 6 football state championships, how can football justify that many classes and none for soccer. For goodness sake only one of them was even remotely close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldtimebaseball84 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Because "American Football" needs special rules and as many chances to give out awards as possible. It is similar to participation trophies. Make sure everyone is awarded for something. Soccer crowns a true champion. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No. Football fans have bemoaned the six class system, TRUST ME. It is basically the Trinity By-law. As for classification in soccer and football, it is pure physics and injury potential. What is the average size discrepancy for players in high school soccer at, say, Calvary Christian and Daviess County? How much physical contact occurs during a game? Now, what is the average size discrepancy b/n Trinity and Beechwood? How much physical contact occurs during the game? The actual competitive range is much greater in football than soccer in terms of physicality and size. It's a safety thing more than anything. Additionally, at any time, member schools can approach the KHSAA to request classification. Nobody is stopping them as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Maniac Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No. Football fans have bemoaned the six class system, TRUST ME. It is basically the Trinity By-law. As for classification in soccer and football, it is pure physics and injury potential. What is the average size discrepancy for players in high school soccer at, say, Calvary Christian and Daviess County? How much physical contact occurs during a game? Now, what is the average size discrepancy b/n Trinity and Beechwood? How much physical contact occurs during the game? The actual competitive range is much greater in football than soccer in terms of physicality and size. It's a safety thing more than anything. Additionally, at any time, member schools can approach the KHSAA to request classification. Nobody is stopping them as far as I know. Then why is Cross Country and track classed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Then why is Cross Country and track classed? I don't know? B/c they requested it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Maniac Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I don't know? B/c they requested it? I have no clue, but the physical reason does not apply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I have no clue, but the physical reason does not apply here. I agree. I am only speaking about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Maniac Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I would think in soccer where you play 11 players, the size of the school would matter and be a reason for classes. The small schools that have football and soccer really have to search for kids I would think in one or both sports. One help to soccer would be move it to Spring, but not much, because of baseball and track and how may kids you need for those. Even going to 2 or 3 classes would make sense in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mexitucky Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 I would think in soccer where you play 11 players, the size of the school would matter and be a reason for classes. The small schools that have football and soccer really have to search for kids I would think in one or both sports. One help to soccer would be move it to Spring, but not much, because of baseball and track and how may kids you need for those. Even going to 2 or 3 classes would make sense in my mind. I agree with this as well. My point was why football was classified and soccer could get away with it. If soccer decided to go to a class system, I could see it. Out of curiosity, b/c I don't know the #s , how do you classify it? Like track? 3 classes? 4 like football should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerfan000 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Maybe 2 classes work but remember there are some regions right now that have 4-5 teams only competing in the entire region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justwondering1 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I believe KHSAA looked into classifying all..most..sports a couple of years ago. I think it was a push led by HS baseball team to classify. Their reasoning was amount of pitchers available to 6A school vs 1A. Obviously classification did not pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbeagle Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 one class system for sports like basketball and soccer crown a true champion. In soccer their are many huge schools that are awful and many small schools that do very well. Soccer has the All A tournament, that allows the small schools to have a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal15 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Class system in soccer makes zero sense. The quality and depth are not there, and small schools can compete and often beat bigger schools every year. Look at Louisville Collegiate this year. They were one of the best in the state and rolled through the All A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bothways Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Class system in soccer makes zero sense. The quality and depth are not there, and small schools can compete and often beat bigger schools every year. Look at Louisville Collegiate this year. They were one of the best in the state and rolled through the All A. Then why do we have the All A tournament. *runs and hides* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal15 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Then why do we have the All A tournament. *runs and hides* I think the All A this year just proves my point. Collegiate absolutely killed everyone. Just shows the quality and depth aren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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