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    Blows my mind that so many are leaving off Howard. He is literally a one man defense. He is playing with a bunch of scrubs in Orlando and they are still a great defensive team.

    Also agree with what formerky said about Tulo. You almost have to draft him. SS is such an important position and he is just now entering his prime. I would like to draft a Catcher but I dont think anyone is really worth drafting that early.

    Football is by far the biggest toss up and you could argue for days about all the different combinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Has nothing to do with that. Look at the numbers. I can see taking a SS though.

    Votto ave WAR in 4 full seasons is 4.9
    Cabrera ave WAR in 8 full season is 4.9

    Cabrera has a negative dWAR as well.
    Miggy:
    2011 - 7.2 WAR
    2010 - 7.1 WAR
    Half his games at Comerica

    Votto:
    2010 - 5.9 WAR
    2011 - 6.5 WAR (this was higher than I thought)
    Half his games at GABP


    ...and defense at 1B??? If that's the lynch pin to your argument then it's over. I'm sticking Miggy's fat butt at first and telling him to catch the ball when it comes his way. 1B is FAR from a premium defensive position.

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    I can't believe anyone would draft a 1st baseman. I'm willing to bet not one GM would draft a 1st baseman if they were put in this situation.

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    Either way, the fact that you put Votto over Tulo is a straight homer pick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals>Steelers View Post
    I can't believe anyone would draft a 1st baseman. I'm willing to bet not one GM would draft a 1st baseman if they were put in this situation.
    I'll go in with you on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    Either way, the fact that you put Votto over Tulo is a straight homer pick...
    Say the guy who had Stanton.


    I bet you anything some GMs would take a 1B first. Why are they the highest paid players in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Say the guy who had Stanton.

    I was going to say the same thing. (Not to mention Cabrera is his favorite player)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Say the guy who had Stanton.


    I bet you anything some GMs would take a 1B first. Why are they the highest paid players in the game?
    I missed the 5 year part and I admitted it was slightly homer even then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    I was going to say the same thing. (Not to mention Cabrera is his favorite player)
    Favorite non-Marlin (I think).

    Cabrera may be a fat, crazy, drunk but he rakes while being a fat, crazy, drunk. Hell, with Votto wouldn't I have to worry about his fragile psyche and him going on the DL for anxiety...again?

    Besides all that, what in this post are you disputing?

    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    Miggy:
    2011 - 7.2 WAR
    2010 - 7.1 WAR
    Half his games at Comerica

    Votto:
    2010 - 5.9 WAR
    2011 - 6.5 WAR (this was higher than I thought)
    Half his games at GABP


    ...and defense at 1B??? If that's the lynch pin to your argument then it's over. I'm sticking Miggy's fat butt at first and telling him to catch the ball when it comes his way. 1B is FAR from a premium defensive position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    Favorite non-Marlin.

    But, what in this post are you disputing?
    Votto ave WAR in 4 full seasons is 4.9
    Cabrera ave WAR in 8 full season is 4.9

    Cabrera has a negative dWAR as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    Miggy:
    2011 - 7.2 WAR
    2010 - 7.1 WAR
    Half his games at Comerica

    Votto:
    2010 - 5.9 WAR
    2011 - 6.5 WAR (this was higher than I thought)
    Half his games at GABP


    ...and defense at 1B??? If that's the lynch pin to your argument then it's over. I'm sticking Miggy's fat butt at first and telling him to catch the ball when it comes his way. 1B is FAR from a premium defensive position.

    Plus Joey isn't fat, less likely to break down.

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    Homers are everywhere around here. Gotta remove all emotional ties if you want to make the correct decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bengals>Steelers View Post
    Homers are everywhere around here. Gotta remove all emotional ties if you want to make the correct decisions.
    So what is your pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Votto ave WAR in 4 full seasons is 4.9
    Cabrera ave WAR in 8 full season is 4.9

    Cabrera has a negative dWAR as well.




    Plus Joey isn't fat, less likely to break down.
    There is nothing at all to show that Cabrera is likely to break down. Once again, if defense is the lynch pin to your argument it's over. You're desperately grasping here.

    Be smart, take Tulo, and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by formerkywrestler View Post
    There is nothing at all to show that Cabrera is likely to break down. Once again, if defense is the lynch pin to your argument it's over. You're desperately grasping here.

    Be smart, take Tulo, and move on.
    I'll stick with the guy who has been healthy (Physically ) his whole career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    So what is your pick?
    It's in the original post.

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