Tebow confirms Elway was telling the truth...

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by DragonFire

The reactions to this will go the exact way the first thread went. The Tebow supporters will spin it in a more positive way and those who aren't in his camp will go the opposite. Me not being a Tebow the QB supporter, I view it as that while Tebow didn't exactly lie, he certainly phrased it in a way to make it seem like Elway wasn't being truthful before. I don't really see how people can slice around him saying "I didn't have any say." It would have been more proper to state it as the final call was Denver's.

Dead on DragonFire!

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by mexitucky

Did Tebow officially say anything until today about it? I'm asking b/c I haven't read anything about the trade besides the fact that it happened. I thought that sources near Tebow and his family had stated that the Jags were never an option.

Yes he did, please go back to the first thread and the links. Tebow not only didn't correct a false impression (until today) he helped the false impression along.

Maybe I shouldn't hold Tebow to a higher standard but I do. I think he stinks as a QB and until now I really thought he was a super human being. In my eyes Tebow dropped from super human being to like far too many in life and that is they they are just a little selfish. I am not saying selfish is always bad because you have to look out for #1 in life I am saying I thought Tebow was special, I don't think that anymore.

**Deimos** · Mar 26, 12, 05:00 PM

Jaguars owner: Tim Tebow didn't want to come to Jacksonville | jacksonville.com

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 05:11 PM

From the article Deimos posted:

At 6:30 p.m. on Wednesday, the Broncos let the Jaguars know they were allowing Tebow to choose between the teams. Denver coach John Fox kept Tebow abreast of the talks throughout the day. Early in the day Fox had asked Tebow if he had a preference, and Tebow said both seemed fine and the Broncos should do what was best for the team.

Wednesday evening, Tebow’s opinion changed. He was going to have a better opportunity to start in New York and felt more wanted by the Jets organization.

Tebow acknowledged that at his press conference in New York on Monday, saying he was more comfortable with the Jets' coaches than with the Jaguars'.

Read more at Jacksonville.com: Jaguars owner: Tim Tebow didn't want to come to Jacksonville | jacksonville.com

**doubledeuce** · Mar 26, 12, 07:03 PM

Reading the article in the first post of this thread. It looks to me that the author used some creativity in para-phrasing the quotes.

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by doubledeuce

Reading the article in the first post of this thread. It looks to me that the author used some creativity in para-phrasing the quotes.

What about in the article Deimos posted?

**doubledeuce** · Mar 26, 12, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by theguru

What about in the article Deimos posted?

I just read it and it doesn't change my opinion. I chalk it up to typical political correct speak. While they did ask his opinion on where he would like to play, he did not have a say.

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by doubledeuce

I just read it and it doesn't change my opinion. I chalk it up to typical political correct speak. While they did ask his opinion on where he would like to play, he did not have a say.

Are you reading what I am reading:

Wednesday evening, Tebow’s opinion changed. He was going to have a better opportunity to start in New York and felt more wanted by the Jets organization
.

**doubledeuce** · Mar 26, 12, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by theguru

Are you reading what I am reading:

Wednesday evening, Tebow’s opinion changed. He was going to have a better opportunity to start in New York and felt more wanted by the Jets organization
.

Oh, I am reading the same thing. Like I said before, he gave them his opinion then the Broncos made the decision. They, the Broncos, had all the power in the end to "choose" where he ended up.

I do not think that either side said anything that was incorrect.

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by doubledeuce

Oh, I am reading the same thing. Like I said before, he gave them his opinion then the Broncos made the decision. They, the Broncos, had all the power in the end to "choose" where he ended up.

I do not think that either side said anything that was incorrect.

I understand, we have to agree to disagree.

**spindoc** · Mar 26, 12, 08:44 PM

Bottom line, Tebow was under contract and truly was at the mercy of Denver management. I don't understand the hullabaloo about this. What did he say that was false? I read the whole shebang and read no dishonesty by anyone in any of it. I'm not a huge Tebow supporter at all, but it seems he draws an awful lot of ire and scrutiny that is unwarranted, IMO.

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by spindoc

Bottom line, Tebow was under contract and truly was at the mercy of Denver management. I don't understand the hullabaloo about this. What did he say that was false? I read the whole shebang and read no dishonesty by anyone in any of it. I'm not a huge Tebow supporter at all, but it seems he draws an awful lot of ire and scrutiny that is unwarranted, IMO.

I think it is pretty clear doc, at first Tebow said he didn't have any (“didn’t have any [say]” in his destination) say in his destination and the Broncos said they were letting Tebow choose which team he went to. First Tebow said do what is right for the Broncos and then he said the Jets were a better option for him. The Broncos traded him to the Jets and went on record saying the Jags were offering more but they traded Tebow to the Jets instead.

**spindoc** · Mar 26, 12, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by theguru

I think it is pretty clear doc, at first Tebow said he didn't have any (“didn’t have any [say]” in his destination) say in his destination and the Broncos said they were letting Tebow choose which team he went to. First Tebow said do what is right for the Broncos and then he said the Jets were a better option for him. The Broncos traded him to the Jets and went on record saying the Jags were offering more but they traded Tebow to the Jets instead.

Seems to me the situation was dynamic. It changed as the process moved on.

**theguru** · Mar 26, 12, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by spindoc

Seems to me the situation was dynamic. It changed as the process moved on.

You are right Doc, the situation changed as Tebow changed his mind thus he had input all along and no one disputes that except Tebow in the beginning.

**History** · Mar 27, 12, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by theguru

You are right Doc, the situation changed as Tebow changed his mind thus he had input all along and no one disputes that except Tebow in the beginning.

In the end it will be shown that Tebow will "use" his NY platform to promote his religous ideals and there is nothing wrong with that. The Jets should be better than the Jags, but I predict this will be the career ending move in New York for Rex Ryan.

The Jets can move merchandise. Tebow can "promote" on the biggest of stages. The Jets will still be so-so. All the "buzzez" will wear off rather quickly.