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    Some people are
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
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    It could also be as simple as Brady saying "those balls don't feel right, let a little air out". Doesn't mean he said deflate them to an illegal level. That's all speculation. Again, ultimately, how he handled the aftermath was wrong. Should stood up and took his medicine.
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    Are you ignoring what RJS just posted? That's my answer. He could have said "let some air out of the balls" WITHOUT telling them to do it to an illegal level, and that wouldn't be cheating... Is it really that hard for you to grasp that idea?
    No, I'm not ignoring what RJS said, I was actually trying to let you catch it yourself
    how ridiculous and stupid that argument actually is.

    Here we go, let me explain how ignorant that argument is.

    The teams have the footballs all week to work on. That means they can rub them up etc. and get them ready for inspection. If, and I will repeat, IF Brady told the equipment guys he likes the balls less inflated BUT DIDNT WANT THEM BELOW THE LEGAL PSI, as you all are
    trying to convince us as what he said , then why wouldn't they simply deflate the balls to 12.5 BEFORE THE OFFICIALS INSPECTED THEM? That's all they would have to do, they had the footballs before the inspections so all they would do is simply inflate them to 12.5 before the inspection and if any were a little below they could have inflated them to the required psi when they were inspected.

    Seriously guys, your excuse to what happened holds no water. Think about it.

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    I must say, it's interesting to see Steelers fans coming to a Patriot's defense (no pun intended ).

    As a fan of no one particular team, I find this heartwarming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    Some people are
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    Nope, we just don't care enough about this to get our panties in wad like you. It's obvious you only care about this because it's Brady and the Patriots. If this would have been Carr and the Raiders my guess is we'd see no more than a few posts about it.

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    For the record, I think Brady will be vindicated. And the people who hate him will only continue despite any future findings that may exonerate him. I have a hard time believing that he would deliberately cheat. He's too high profile, with too much to lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    For the record, I think Brady will be vindicated. And the people who hate him will only continue despite any future findings that may exonerate him. I have a hard time believing that he would deliberately cheat. He's too high profile, with too much to lose.
    The question I have then is, why didn't he cooperate to clear his name with in the first place.

    Thats what I would have done or anyone who had nothing to hide and was innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsrider View Post
    Nope, we just don't care enough about this to get our panties in wad like you. It's obvious you only care about this because it's Brady and the Patriots. If this would have been Carr and the Raiders my guess is we'd see no more than a few posts about it.
    That's what happens when a team has a history of cheating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    That's what happens when a team has a history of cheating.
    All teams cheat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    The question I have then is, why didn't he cooperate to clear his name with in the first place.

    Thats what I would have done or anyone who had nothing to hide and was innocent.
    If it were me, I'd be the same way. Give me a good reason to give you my phone. I don't have to prove my innocence, you have to prove my guilt. Even now, no guilt has been proven. It's not about having something to hide. It's about having a right to privacy, even as a public figure. Besides, even if he had (or does eventually), and nothing was found, people like you would STILL not accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    If it were me, I'd be the same way. Give me a good reason to give you my phone. I don't have to prove my innocence, you have to prove my guilt. Even now, no guilt has been proven. It's not about having something to hide. It's about having a right to privacy, even as a public figure. Besides, even if he had (or does eventually), and nothing was found, people like you would STILL not accept it.
    Bingo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellbird View Post
    No, I'm not ignoring what RJS said, I was actually trying to let you catch it yourself
    how ridiculous and stupid that argument actually is.

    Here we go, let me explain how ignorant that argument is.

    The teams have the footballs all week to work on. That means they can rub them up etc. and get them ready for inspection. If, and I will repeat, IF Brady told the equipment guys he likes the balls less inflated BUT DIDNT WANT THEM BELOW THE LEGAL PSI, as you all are
    trying to convince us as what he said , then why wouldn't they simply deflate the balls to 12.5 BEFORE THE OFFICIALS INSPECTED THEM? That's all they would have to do, they had the footballs before the inspections so all they would do is simply inflate them to 12.5 before the inspection and if any were a little below they could have inflated them to the required psi when they were inspected.

    Seriously guys, your excuse to what happened holds no water. Think about it.
    Ignorant?? That's a little harsh Again, I don't know what happened. I just don't think my "ignorant argument" is all that far fetched. But even if Brady told them a specific PSI that was way under, I'm just not all that upset about it. He got caught and got punished. And while I think it's harsh, it is what it is. I also don't think a football being a lb or two "flat" is a huge infraction. It certainly isn't why Brady is one of the top10 QB's in NFL history. And it ain't enough for me to brand him a horrible cheater, and discount everything he has accomplished. Especially when a rule is likely broken on every snap in a football game. I've held a guy when I was getting beat. I've knowingly committed pass interference to prevent a TD. That's breaking a rule and cheating. I ain't gonna hate on Tom for something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggclfan View Post
    C'mon man, those footballs had NO bearing on whether the Pats won the Super Bowl last year. Don't even credence to that possibility...
    Come on---They barely squeaked by in the game vs. Indy? The balls must have been the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StickerMann View Post
    Come on---They barely squeaked by in the game vs. Indy? The balls must have been the difference?
    ???? NE won 45-7

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    Here are all the answers Hellbird ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Ignorant?? That's a little harsh Again, I don't know what happened. I just don't think my "ignorant argument" is all that far fetched. But even if Brady told them a specific PSI that was way under, I'm just not all that upset about it. He got caught and got punished. And while I think it's harsh, it is what it is. I also don't think a football being a lb or two "flat" is a huge infraction. It certainly isn't why Brady is one of the top10 QB's in NFL history. And it ain't enough for me to brand him a horrible cheater, and discount everything he has accomplished. Especially when a rule is likely broken on every snap in a football game. I've held a guy when I was getting beat. I've knowingly committed pass interference to prevent a TD. That's breaking a rule and cheating. I ain't gonna hate on Tom for something like this.

    Way too much logic in this post. Way too much logic......

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