Jerry Jones threatens to sue NFL if Roger Goodell's contract extension is approved

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I do not think the NFL should be able to suspend anyone based on unproven allegations of criminal activity.
    With this guideline, players should just pay off anybody accusing them of anything. Pay up, keep it out of court and keep collecting paychecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    With this guideline, players should just pay off anybody accusing them of anything. Pay up, keep it out of court and keep collecting paychecks.
    If "victims" voluntarily choose the money over the courts that is their right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    I do not think the NFL should be able to suspend anyone based on unproven allegations of criminal activity.
    That is just a horrible take.

    So Greg Hardy shouldn't have been suspended?

    Ray Rice shouldn't have been suspended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    That is just a horrible take.

    So Greg Hardy shouldn't have been suspended?

    Ray Rice shouldn't have been suspended?
    There is a reason we have a criminal justice system. It is far from perfect but it is the best in the world.

    In my opinion the higher priority here is equal treatment under the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    There is a reason we have a criminal justice system. It is far from perfect but it is the best in the world.

    In my opinion the higher priority here is equal treatment under the law.
    It has nothing to do with the justice system.

    If I catch someone doing something that reflects poorly on our company, they can absolutely lose their job. Same goes for millions of businesses around the world. Why should that not be the case for the NFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    It has nothing to do with the justice system.

    If I catch someone doing something that reflects poorly on our company, they can absolutely lose their job. Same goes for millions of businesses around the world. Why should that not be the case for the NFL?
    I admit there are merits to both sides of the debate.

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    Jerry just lost his mind. Zeke is out for the next 6 games

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    The NFL pulled the wool over the eyes of the players association when they signed the current CBA. Plain and simple.
    No they didn't. Everything the players agreed to was there in black and white. They had choice if they didn't like it. The fact is the owners have 99.9% of the power in this. Plus when it comes down to it the players just don't care about the punishment powers of the commish. At least not enough to give up anything and they sure as hell aren't going to hold out because of it. Fact is too many players can't afford to miss a check so they won't. Their time in the league is limited and their contracts aren't guaranteed. They have to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsrider View Post
    No they didn't. Everything the players agreed to was there in black and white. They had choice if they didn't like it. The fact is the owners have 99.9% of the power in this. Plus when it comes down to it the players just don't care about the punishment powers of the commish. At least not enough to give up anything and they sure as hell aren't going to hold out because of it. Fact is too many players can't afford to miss a check so they won't. Their time in the league is limited and their contracts aren't guaranteed. They have to play.
    I don't know if "pulll the wool" is the correct expression, I think he just meant they were taken to the woodshed by the owners last go-around... which they were. I have said for years that DeMaurice Smith is a clown and has preyed upon the players. They love him because he encourages public combativeness instead of looking out for the interests of his group. He basically let go of 12% of revenue so players can have less contact in practice... and relinquished all authoritative power. Who Ruined the NFL Players Union? - VICE Sports Two years ago, Ben Volin of the Boston Globe evaluated the 10-year pact that Smith spearheaded and ultimately signed, concluding that "no matter how you slice it, the owners obliterated" the NFLPA. A prominent, anonymous NFL agent was even less charitable, telling Volin that the union "absolutely failed" its membership by agreeing to "the worst CBA in professional sports history."

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    The NFLPA deal is so bad that it makes the NFL bad because it stripped itself of so much power.

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    I think the players went with CBA because it put money in their pocket. Do you think players care about the 1-2% that get suspended?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    I don't know if "pulll the wool" is the correct expression, I think he just meant they were taken to the woodshed by the owners last go-around... which they were. I have said for years that DeMaurice Smith is a clown and has preyed upon the players. They love him because he encourages public combativeness instead of looking out for the interests of his group. He basically let go of 12% of revenue so players can have less contact in practice... and relinquished all authoritative power. Who Ruined the NFL Players Union? - VICE Sports Two years ago, Ben Volin of the Boston Globe evaluated the 10-year pact that Smith spearheaded and ultimately signed, concluding that "no matter how you slice it, the owners obliterated" the NFLPA. A prominent, anonymous NFL agent was even less charitable, telling Volin that the union "absolutely failed" its membership by agreeing to "the worst CBA in professional sports history."
    Smith has his faults but to lay this all at his feet isn't fair. His hands were tied. His members did not want to miss checks. They were telling their leadership get a deal done no matter what. The fact is the NFLPA is fractured and a bunch of individuals. They don't care about future players or power. They want their money. Again it goes back to the fact that they don't have guaranteed contracts and their careers are like 3 years on average. On a ten year deal most won't around for half of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsrider View Post
    No they didn't. Everything the players agreed to was there in black and white. They had choice if they didn't like it. The fact is the owners have 99.9% of the power in this. Plus when it comes down to it the players just don't care about the punishment powers of the commish. At least not enough to give up anything and they sure as hell aren't going to hold out because of it. Fact is too many players can't afford to miss a check so they won't. Their time in the league is limited and their contracts aren't guaranteed. They have to play.
    We'll see. I tend to disagree with you. The players have the power IMO and the PA is prepared to hold out when this CBA is void or expired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    We'll see. I tend to disagree with you. The players have the power IMO and the PA is prepared to hold out when this CBA is void or expired.
    I'm not sure they are. When push comes to shove, are they willing to miss game checks? I'm not sure all the issues but they won't hold out just off punishment of very few percentage of the players in the league.

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