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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    He had more talent than half of the starters in the NFL last season.
    Couldn't possibly disagree more.

    Brady
    Big Ben
    Flacco
    Luck (I know he was hurt, but he the expected starter)
    Watson
    Mariota
    Rivers
    Smith
    Carr
    Eli
    Dak
    Cousins
    Wentz
    Ryan
    Brees
    Winston
    Cam
    Rodgers
    Stafford
    Wilson


    That's 20 right there that are better than Kaep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    And keep in mind that Josh Rosen is being set up to be pigeonholed in the same manner.
    IMO, Josh Rosen is falling because his own coaches and teammates have had negative things to say about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Couldn't possibly disagree more.

    Brady
    Big Ben
    Flacco
    Luck (I know he was hurt, but he the expected starter)
    Watson
    Mariota
    Rivers
    Smith
    Carr
    Eli
    Dak
    Cousins
    Wentz
    Ryan
    Brees
    Winston
    Cam
    Rodgers
    Stafford
    Wilson


    That's 20 right there that are better than Kaep.
    Debatable but I understand why people think these guys are better/more talented than Kaep. IMO it is debatable amongst these five QBs as to who is better.

    Dak
    Mariota
    Winston
    Eli
    Carr

    Side note: Alex Smith was a mediocre QB his whole career until he found Andy Reid. How is a QB who was as bad as Alex Smith was to begin his career given multiple chances over and over again? Didn’t Kaepernick take his job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    IMO, Josh Rosen is falling because his own coaches and teammates have had negative things to say about him.
    Seems like he is being pigeonholed and set up to be hated on. The media is in on it now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Debatable but I understand why people think these guys are better/more talented than Kaep. IMO it is debatable amongst these five QBs as to who is better.

    Dak
    Mariota
    Winston
    Eli
    Carr

    Side note: Alex Smith was a mediocre QB his whole career until he found Andy Reid. How is a QB who was as bad as Alex Smith was to begin his career given multiple chances over and over again? Didn’t Kaepernick take his job?
    Smith was injured, if I recall correctly, when Kaep took over in SF.

    I think Eli is the only of those 5 that's debatable, and that's just because he's on the twilight of his career. Hard to argue with 2 SB rings though.

    Maybe Kaep would be able to have a change like Smith if he were paired up with a QB guy, but those QB guys are few and far between and they all have their QBs right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Seems like he is being pigeonholed and set up to be hated on. The media is in on it now too.
    Maybe so, I don't know what the media has done, I haven't followed it closely.

    I just know Mora, his HS coach, and teammates have all talked negatively about him. I doubt that's been fabricated by the media, but like I said, I haven't followed it very closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Smith was injured, if I recall correctly, when Kaep took over in SF.

    I think Eli is the only of those 5 that's debatable, and that's just because he's on the twilight of his career. Hard to argue with 2 SB rings though.

    Maybe Kaep would be able to have a change like Smith if he were paired up with a QB guy, but those QB guys are few and far between and they all have their QBs right now.
    What are we using to gauge these QBs in comparison with one another? If we are going to bring the Super Bowl into the equation then we have to use the fact that Kaepernick singlehandedly carried the 49ers to a Super Bowl on his back 5 years ago which also happens to be a more recent Super Bowl appearance than Eli.

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    Kaep is better than Ell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Maybe so, I don't know what the media has done, I haven't followed it closely.

    I just know Mora, his HS coach, and teammates have all talked negatively about him. I doubt that's been fabricated by the media, but like I said, I haven't followed it very closely.
    I wouldn’t say fabricated by the media. I would say highlighted by the media. The media picks and chooses what it wants to highlight for whatever reason.

    Another side note:

    See: non story of Kawhi Leonard crapping all over the Spurs all season long....... Can you imagine what the media would be doing right now if Tom Brady’s doctor said he wasn’t healthy enough to play and Tom didn’t play? Yet Kawhi sat all season and pretty much silence from the media.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    Kaep is better than Ell?
    In 2017? Absolutely. Eli was benched and had his starting streak ruined and we all watched him cry about it. It wasn’t because he was out on the field kicking butt. It’s because he was out on the field looking butt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    What are we using to gauge these QBs in comparison with one another? If we are going to bring the Super Bowl into the equation then we have to use the fact that Kaepernick singlehandedly carried the 49ers to a Super Bowl on his back 5 years ago which also happens to be a more recent Super Bowl appearance than Eli.
    Additionally, he listed several teams that are either drafting QB's or have just drafted a QB. You're telling me Kaep, who as you pointed out carried the 49ers to the Super Bowl isn't better than those guys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    In 2017? Absolutely. Eli was benched and had his starting streak ruined and we all watched him cry about it. It wasn’t because he was out on the field kicking butt. It’s because he was out on the field looking butt.
    Eli didnt get benched because of his play.

    He got benched because Mcadoo is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Additionally, he listed several teams that are either drafting QB's or have just drafted a QB. You're telling me Kaep, who as you pointed out carried the 49ers to the Super Bowl isn't better than those guys?
    And put Kaep on a team with a good coach who is a QB guy and imagine how much better he could be.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Additionally, he listed several teams that are either drafting QB's or have just drafted a QB. You're telling me Kaep, who as you pointed out carried the 49ers to the Super Bowl isn't better than those guys?
    Kaep's 30.

    What makes more sense for a team that needs to develop a QB, going with a 22-23 year old that you can attempt to mold into a franchise QB, or signing a 30 year old QB that hasn't played in almost 2 seasons that is most likely already at the max of their potential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfback20 View Post
    Eli didnt get benched because of his play.

    He got benched because Mcadoo is an idiot.
    Eli had a good year last year? Is that McAdoo’s fault also?

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