Has the NFL gotten too soft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackie Ed View Post
    To me the guys to blame are the ones that started to sue for CTE. They have a legit complaint (NFL knowing and not doing anything about it), but how many guys played years in the NFL and didn’t have CTE? If I was an owner I would have any player get a CAT scan before I signed them, and then after they retire. Compare the two and go from there. Of all The brains that have been examined posthumously, how many were of guys that played in the league and didn’t have some form of dementia? All John Q Public hears about is the guys that had brain damage.

    Good to great example is today. HOFer Tommy McDonald passes away today at the old age of 84. By all accounts he was one of the toughest guys to play wide receiver. He played his whole career without a face mask. Any word from his family about having his brain checked for CTE? Dude was 84, and played with a cheap plastic helmet. The league is getting soft bc the players who didn’t take care of their finances decided to hop on the CTE band wagon and sue. At some point everyone had to realize, it’s vioent game played by super strong, super fast, super aggressive guys.
    We don't know how many players have been affected by CTE. The only way it can be diagnosed is from an autospy after death. CAT scans while the player is living won't uncover CTE, and are useless.

    Besides, the rouging the QB rule has nothing to do with CTE, or even concussions. This is about the NFL protecting it's most valuable commodity, and the most important player on the field, and ultimately the quality of their overall product. At any given moment, there might be 30-40 guys in the WORLD that are able to do the job competently. This is way different from a few decades ago, when the main job of the QB was to call plays and hand the ball off 40 times a game.
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    The NFL competition committee is going to talk next week about the increase of Roughing the Passer penalties this year.

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    Truth be told I think the NFL offensive explosion the last 10-15 years is a tad boring. From 1:00 until 11:30 on Sunday I am watching the same game over and over. I prefer 21-17 over 38-35 any day. I miss smash mouth football.

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    I am caring for the NFL product less and less.

    I don't like watching football when the most important person on the field is the white hat in the zebra suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkuclubbaseball19 View Post
    The NFL competition committee is going to talk next week about the increase of Roughing the Passer penalties this year.
    They'll probably at some point change the rule to emulate that model of clarity: the pass reception rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkuclubbaseball19 View Post
    And to add to it. William Hayes of the Dolphins tore his ACL and is done for the year because he tried to twist his body so he didn't land on Derek Carr with his weight.

    William Hayes of Miami Dolphins tears ACL trying to avoid sack flag
    The NFL doesn’t care about a defensive player getting hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    They'll probably at some point change the rule to emulate that model of clarity: the pass reception rule.
    Well, they did modify the catch rule in the offseason, and I don’t think I’ve heard a single complaint or question so far this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet16 View Post
    The NFL doesn’t care about a defensive player getting hurt.
    At the end of the day, there's only roughly 32 players the league really cares about getting hurt.

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    This is absolutely golden! From ESPN's website - "Practicing safe sacks with Kevin Hart".

    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24801021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack The Knife View Post
    Truth be told I think the NFL offensive explosion the last 10-15 years is a tad boring. From 1:00 until 11:30 on Sunday I am watching the same game over and over. I prefer 21-17 over 38-35 any day. I miss smash mouth football.
    This 1,000%

    The unintended consequence of all the rules changes to increase scoring has created a pitch and catch league. In creating this kind of football, the NFL has made the QB position too important to the game and therefore they needed more rules to protect the prima donna.

    The irony is that in their effort to gain more viewers through more scoring (I am assuming this is why the rules changes have overwhelmingly benefited the offense), they are creating a product that men no longer like to watch. To see Clay Matthew's picture-perfect tackle get flagged makes me angry and have contempt for the QBs. I become critical of the game. It doesn't make me want to watch it.

    One caveat to all of this...

    if the Browns start winning you won't be able to tear me away from a TV. You gotta give me that inconsistency. I've earned the right through years of suffering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    This 1,000%

    The unintended consequence of all the rules changes to increase scoring has created a pitch and catch league. In creating this kind of football, the NFL has made the QB position too important to the game and therefore they needed more rules to protect the prima donna.

    The irony is that in their effort to gain more viewers through more scoring (I am assuming this is why the rules changes have overwhelmingly benefited the offense), they are creating a product that men no longer like to watch. To see Clay Matthew's picture-perfect tackle get flagged makes me angry and have contempt for the QBs. I become critical of the game. It doesn't make me want to watch it.

    One caveat to all of this...

    if the Browns start winning you won't be able to tear me away from a TV. You gotta give me that inconsistency. I've earned the right through years of suffering.
    That’s why love watching Benny Snell run the football. Wouldn’t bother me if they back to rules from the 1960’s and 1970’s when I first learned to love the NFL. Nothing wrong with a good old 17-13 physical slobber knocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nkypete View Post
    This is absolutely golden! From ESPN's website - "Practicing safe sacks with Kevin Hart".

    http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=24801021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack The Knife View Post
    That’s why love watching Benny Snell run the football. Wouldn’t bother me if they back to rules from the 1960’s and 1970’s when I first learned to love the NFL. Nothing wrong with a good old 17-13 physical slobber knocker.
    Exactly! The QB is way too important in football today. It is supposed to be a tough sport but the NFL decided to try to become arena football. How did that league end up?

    The main reason I love high school football more than any other level is that most of the teams do not have a star QB. They have to run it a lot which emphasizes teamwork and decreases the importance of the individual. I would much rather see a team run through all 11 opposing players than to just heave the ball over the heads of ten of them for one big play or a big penalty. Take the refs out of the game as much as possible and let the players decide the winner.

    With that being said, I think the Eagles did pretty good with their backup QB last year...

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    Eventually they will need to bring back in the grasp and stop the play then. That would protect the QB and get at least some chance to the defenders. That would kill QB's like Cam and Big Ben, though.

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