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    Default Elway and Tebow are pretty much calling each other liars...

    On Wednesday, multiple reports indicated that the Broncos were allowing quarterback Tim Tebow to choose between the Jets and the Jaguars. After the trade went down, Tebow claimed otherwise.

    In a late-night media conference call, Tebow said that he “didn’t have any [say]” in his destination, and that the Broncos had “all that power.”

    Broncos V.P. of football operations John Elway begs to differ.

    “There was more [offered] from Jacksonville, but I think that we looked at it and it was close enough, and we were in contact with Tim throughout the day, and talked to him,” Elway told ESPN Radio in Denver on Thursday, via Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post. “He knew what was going on the whole time. The reports that he was not involved are not accurate.”

    It’s more than “reports” that Tebow wasn’t involved. Tebow said so himself.

    Elway, Tebow differ on whether quarterback chose Jets | ProFootballTalk

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    My money says Tebow is the one being honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    My money says Tebow is the one being honest.
    Honest question here, does Elway have a history of being dishonest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Honest question here, does Elway have a history of being dishonest?
    He has a history of not being genuine about Mr. Tebow. He's also got a HUGE ego.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    He has a history of not being genuine about Mr. Tebow. He's also got a HUGE ego.
    In fairness, isn't a lot of that just "coachspeak" where coaches have to play politician at times?

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    I bet Tebow is trying to be nice and not wanting to offend the fine folks of his home state.

    There's nothing in it for Elway to lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    I bet Tebow is trying to be nice and not wanting to offend the fine folks of his home state.

    There's nothing in it for Elway to lie.
    This is my thinking too, Elway has no reason to lie, Tebow does...

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    Why does Tebow have a reason to lie? Particularly when family said his preference was Jacksonville.

    My money's on Elway lying. Lot's of fans of Tebow still in Denver that may not be happy with him if he's treated their boy badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    Why does Tebow have a reason to lie? Particularly when family said his preference was Jacksonville.

    My money's on Elway lying. Lot's of fans of Tebow still in Denver that may not be happy with him if he's treated their boy badly.
    He doesn't want anyone to be mad at him for choosing NYJ.

    I heard today that his brother is loony about promoting Brand Tebow and is responsible for him being "out" with Taylor Swift et al. What better place to build the brand?

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    C'mon! Elway has no reason to lie? Really? The man just bundled off the player that actually got fans excited about his team again...and he's been openly dismissive of Tebow's future as a starter. Then, he trades for a 4th round draft pick, making it look like he doesn't place one iota of value on Tebow....

    My money's on Tebow for the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    C'mon! Elway has no reason to lie? Really? The man just bundled off the player that actually got fans excited about his team again...and he's been openly dismissive of Tebow's future as a starter. Then, he trades for a 4th round draft pick, making it look like he doesn't place one iota of value on Tebow....

    My money's on Tebow for the truth.

    But once he got rid of him what's in it for him to lie? Nothing.

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    Then maybe Elway wasn't as completely forthcoming with Tebow as he'd like us to believe.

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    People who are saying Elway is lying to placate fans after he traded Tebow aren't thinking that through very well. After all, why would they (the fans) care about the reasons? It's that he's not there in the first place that will upset them. And that's already done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmom View Post
    Then maybe Elway wasn't as completely forthcoming with Tebow as he'd like us to believe.
    I don't even get what that means?

    You've only listed the "whys" of the trade (Elway didn't want him/didn't draft him/doesn't think he can play) and not the "why" of the supposed lie. Once he got even one taker your reasoning is no longer valid for a lie.

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    I don't really think there is much of a lie here. Tebow said he didn't have any say in the matter really as far as where he went and Elway is saying they kept Tebow in the loop as to what Denver was doing. It's not like Elway said "we did what Tim told us would be best for him", he said that they kept him in the know as to what was going on. A lot of hype about nothing IMO.
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    Uh if I had to pick any person in the world to trust on this Earth that I didn't know it would probably be Tim Tebow. I know he's human but he's had more integrity than anybody I can think of right off that I don't know. I have heard that the owner was the only person in Jax that wanted Tebow not the coaches. Sporano is a running coach that has been the best Wildcat coach in the NFL. I think Tebow has been a thorn in Elways side. I like Elway but would take Tebow's word all day every day over Elways on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde View Post
    But once he got rid of him what's in it for him to lie? Nothing.
    Sure there is. You don't think Tebow still has a lot of fans in Denver? Sure they're glad to get Manning but they wouldn't like Tebow mistreated. There has never been any indication that Tebow is anything but an up and up guy. Elway? Not so much. Tebow still has no reason to lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFire View Post
    People who are saying Elway is lying to placate fans after he traded Tebow aren't thinking that through very well. After all, why would they (the fans) care about the reasons? It's that he's not there in the first place that will upset them. And that's already done.
    No, most fans understand they had to go for Manning. What would make them mad is if they thought Tebow was mistreated on his way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 75center View Post
    No, most fans understand they had to go for Manning. What would make them mad is if they thought Tebow was mistreated on his way out.
    Just can't say I agree with that logic.

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    The thing that stood out to me, and I'll ask any Denvers fans out there...are you upset that Elway said that the Jags offered "more" than the Jets...yet Tebow is going to New York? If you could get a 2nd or 3rd rounder, instead of a 4th rounder, or even some additional cash...I mean, wouldn't you want that for your team?