Cowboys 24 Giants 17

Originally Posted by 75center

On Mike and Mike this morning they said he leads the league since 2009 with 73 or almost 25 per year. Mark Sanchez was second with 60 something.

Then I stand corrected. Perhaps I blocked the bad memories out.

When you're winning, nothing else matters. Johnny Bench struck out a lot but people remember homeruns and world series.

Originally Posted by halfback20

All I know is that if the Giants can get in the playoffs, they have a shot of winning it all.

The preferred route to the super bowl is a 1st round game vs an NFC South Team (Bucs/Falcons), a 2nd round road game vs. the #1 seed (Cowboys/Packers), and finally a conference championship road game vs the NFC #2 seed (Packers/Niners).

And of course we always hope to play the heavily favored Pats in the super bowl.

You are missing the "one of the Pat's stars suffers a severely sprained ankle and the media covers it 26 hours a day up until game time."

Originally Posted by halfback20

Did Eli have a terrible amount of turnovers last year? I believe he threw 29 TD's vs 16 INTS. Eli played well all year last year and without him they wouldn't have won 5 games.

Did he lead the league with 25 interceptions the year before? Is that clear enough. I wasn't talking about last year only. I'm saying since the 1st Super Bowl season they haven't been your typical kind of team you would expect to win it all. Somebody like the Packers or the Pats the 1st time they broke their undefeated streak were teams that dominated. The Giants have caught fire when it counted. I would venture to guess no team has ever won the Super Bowl while being the lowest in the league rushing.

Originally Posted by stick1

Did he lead the league with 25 interceptions the year before? Is that clear enough. I wasn't talking about last year only. I'm saying since the 1st Super Bowl season they haven't been your typical kind of team you would expect to win it all. Somebody like the Packers or the Pats the 1st time they broke their undefeated streak were teams that dominated. The Giants have caught fire when it counted. I would venture to guess no team has ever won the Super Bowl while being the lowest in the league rushing.

Did the Packers not do something similar to the Giants when they won it?

And I know you probably won't believe it coming from me, but Eli had a lot of interceptions bounce off WR's hands that year. More than 2-3 I mean.

And I realize he has had a history of turnovers but not last season. He played great last season. He was the only bright spot for the Giants at times last year.

You get way to offended when it comes to the Giants. Their champs. Nobody can take that away. I don't think they were the best team in the NFL last year but they won when it counted and that's what matters. All I was saying is that it's weird how they can have a span the last few years where they have A. had a QB lead the league in int's. B. lead the league in worst rushing off. C. Have stinker games at home that they should win. Yet the still won it twice.
It's also odd that the Packers had a terrible defense last year and won like they did.
You always hear "Defense wins championships" "you have to run the ball to win in the post season" "you have to win the turnover battle to win" etc.

Originally Posted by stick1

You get way to offended when it comes to the Giants. Their champs. Nobody can take that away. I don't think they were the best team in the NFL last year but they won when it counted and that's what matters. All I was saying is that it's weird how they can have a span the last few years where they have A. had a QB lead the league in int's. B. lead the league in worst rushing off. C. Have stinker games at home that they should win. Yet the still won it twice.
It's also odd that the Packers had a terrible defense last year and won like they did.
You always hear "Defense wins championships" "you have to run the ball to win in the post season" "you have to win the turnover battle to win" etc.

I have not been offended one time in this thread. Not sure where you got that.

Yeah, Eli led the league in interceptions one year. But the Giants did not win the super bowl that year. Eli was on fire most of last season. He played his best season by far. The Giants lack of a run game and bad defense is what kept them from being better in the regular season. Do I have an explanation for how the Giants manage to be just good enough to get in the playoffs, and then turn it on? No, I have no idea how they do it. Their defense stunk most of the year last year. Then when they were 7-7 and needed to win out...they played amazing. I don't have a clue what happened other than they got a few guys healthy. I guess things just clicked.

I am still confident that the Giants will have a decent year this year. They played pretty bad Wednesday night and only lost by 7. Now if they lose next week vs. Tampa Bay I'll be a little discouraged.

Just unconventional for how you would think a Super Bowl team is.
They are good again. That Division is loaded! Tampa will not be an easy out. They are much proved I think.
Giants secondary was pathetic to start the season when they won it. It's a long year. Way to early to panic.
I think Dallas was a playoff team w Muarry last year. He brings a running game+physicality they need.

Originally Posted by stick1

Just unconventional for how you would think a Super Bowl team is.
They are good again. That Division is loaded! Tampa will not be an easy out. They are much proved I think.
Giants secondary was pathetic to start the season when they won it. It's a long year. Way to early to panic.
I think Dallas was a playoff team w Muarry last year. He brings a running game+physicality they need.

Dallas might have had playoff potential last year but once the Giants started their run, Dallas wouldn't have beat them either way. The week 17 game in MetLife stadium for all the NFC East marbles wasn't much of a game at all. The Giants just turned it on.

And the Giants have some secondary issues for the second year in a row due to injuries. Last year they lost Terrell Thomas (all year) Prince Amukamara (for most of the season). This year Thomas is out again for the season. His career might be over. Amukamara has a high ankle sprain. Unfortunately the Giants also lost Aaron Ross through free agency as well. They are thin at corner w/o Prince. Hopefully he comes back soon.

As for the Bucs, I also think they have improved. Don't feel like it will be a cakewalk that's for sure.