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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    A different question: was she claiming he forced her or otherwise used violence or is it a case of Me Too where a person in a position of power takes advantage of it to seduce someone who wants a job?
    From what I read there were three different situations. One dealing with exposure, one dealing with his bodily fluids, and a third when he forced himself upon her. I'd use more detail, but this is a family website lol.
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    Say what you want, but my first instinct when someone accuses a professional athlete of rape is to question it.

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    Regardless of the veracity, KARMA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    I kept seeing people say that. Wouldnt have been more convenient when he was guaranteed 30m?
    I don’t disagree. But it just feels like this may be more about more than just money. Again it could very well be true, but I really hope it’s not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Say what you want, but my first instinct when someone accuses a professional athlete of rape is to question it.
    Same here. It’s a shame it is the way it is, but it seems more often than not now that this is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    I don’t disagree. But it just feels like this may be more about more than just money. Again it could very well be true, but I really hope it’s not.
    I hope for whatever the truth is, that the truth prevails. I am conditioned to think more like you and Deuce. But I also know that is a very narrow way of looking at these things. Why we are more likely to go against the word of a potential victim? If history shows us anything, people with senses of entitlement and power (AB checks both of those) are often abusers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Say what you want, but my first instinct when someone accuses a professional athlete of rape is to question it.
    Which is why so many victims either take so long to come forward or not come forward at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Which is why so many victims either take so long to come forward or not come forward at all.
    If the evidence is there, there shouldn’t be a reason to wait or be afraid to report it.

    It’s way too easy to ruin someone’s reputation with an accusation like this, whether true or not. It’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. In these cases, it’s often guilty until proven innocent.

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    The victim sounds like she has evidence beyond "he said/she said". There apparently are messages from AB that support her story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Say what you want, but my first instinct when someone accuses a professional athlete of rape is to question it.
    Statistics I have seen put false rape claims at about 5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    The victim sounds like she has evidence beyond "he said/she said". There apparently are messages from AB that support her story.
    And what I just heard is that it was known this was coming. This wasn’t a spur of the moment thing. AB’s agent knew this was coming at some point. Therefore, were the Patriots informed about this prior to signing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    Statistics I have seen put false rape claims at about 5%.
    Those are only the ones that are reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    If the evidence is there, there shouldn’t be a reason to wait or be afraid to report it.

    It’s way too easy to ruin someone’s reputation with an accusation like this, whether true or not. It’s supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. In these cases, it’s often guilty until proven innocent.
    Except the fact that many people won’t believe them. Not to mention that I simply cannot fathom being forced to relive and talk about what happened to strangers. Many of which who won’t believe your story.

    I agree it’s easy to ruin someone’s reputation. But in all honesty, how many times has that happened? The overwhelming majority of these cases turn out to be true. Yet the first instinct is for people to not believe the victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjs4470 View Post
    Except the fact that many people won’t believe them. Not to mention that I simply cannot fathom being forced to relive and talk about what happened to strangers. Many of which who won’t believe your story.

    I agree it’s easy to ruin someone’s reputation. But in all honesty, how many times has that happened? The overwhelming majority of these cases turn out to be true. Yet the first instinct is for people to not believe the victim.
    We have completely opposite views on this. I think the overwhelming majority of the time people believe the victims, sometimes with little or nothing to go on, and the accused has to prove they are innocent, rather than the other way around.

    My stance on this is firm. I’ve seen it happen multiple times. Not to celebrities, but normal people. Once to a close friend. It’s a dangerous accusation to make when it’s not true. And what’s worse, it makes things worse for actual victims.

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    AB's legal team says it was consensual. It may very well have been (of course I have no way of knowing) since it was 3 incidents spread out over months. Why would she put herself in harm's way again after the first incident?

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