Greatest NBA duos of All Time

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    1963/64: Cincinnati welcomed Ohio State star Jerry Lucas who was the Royals territorial selection in the NBA Draft. The combination of Lucas and Oscar Robertson gave the Royals a formidable one-two punch. In their first season together the pair combined to average 49.1 points, 27.3 rebounds, and 13.6 assists. Lucas, who pounded the boards for 17.4 rebounds per game and was named NBA Rookie of the Year. While, the "Big O" was named MVP with a career high 31.4ppg, while leading the league in assists, as the Royals finished in second place with a 55-25 record. In the playoffs the Royals would beat the Philadelphia 76ers in a five game series to set up a rematch with the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Finals. However, once again the Celtics would prove too much capturing the first three games on the way to an easy victory in five games.
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    1964/65: The duo of Oscar Robertson and Jerry Lucas continued to be strong as Robertson average 30.4 ppg while Lucas pulled down an incredible 20 rebounds per game as the Royals finished in second place with a 48-32 record. However, in the playoff the Royals would be stunned by the Philadelphia 76ers in four games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    Can't really argue that.

    So do you think the Kobe-Shaq team played a squad equal to the 1983 Philadelphia 76'ers? (Remember that Magic didn't choke in that one. They just got beat. Well and it didn't help that James Worthy was missing)

    Were any of the Kobe-Shaq opponents as good as the Celtics in '84?

    Of course Kobe and Shaq lost to the powerful Detroit Pistons in the Finals. Hamilton and Rasheed and Ben were Hall of Famers. Or does that choke not count?

    Was being swept in 1999 part of the equation as well vs the Spurs?

    Magic's First 8 seasons with Kareem went like this:

    1st Beat 76'ers for Title
    2nd Lost in First Round
    3rd Beat 76'ers for Title
    4th Lost in Finals to 76'ers
    5th Lost in Finals to Celtics
    6th Beat Celtics for Title
    7th Lost in Conference Semi-Finals
    8th Beat Celtics for Title

    Kobe's First eight seasons with Shaq went like this:

    1st Lost in Semi-Finals
    2nd Lost in Conference Finals
    3rd Lost in Semi-Finals
    4th Beat Pacers for the Title
    5th Beat the 76'ers for the Title
    6th Beat the Nets for the Title
    7th Lost in the Semi-Finals
    8th Lost in the Finals to Pistons

    Pretty even. Kobe won three in a row, I get that. Look at their Finals opponents and let's talk about that.

    Magic won 4 in the same amount of time and failed to make the Finals only twice.
    Magic and Kareem had better teams when they won titles and went to the finals in 80s compared to Kobe and Shaq. I bet you can't name one single starting five from the Kobe and Shaq days without using Google. At the same time I bet you can name multiple Lakers starting fives from Magic and Kareem days off the top of your head. It's easy to be a duo who wins when you have multiple Hall of Famers on your team compared to Rick Fox and who else??????

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    Best duo ever may have been Stockton and Malone. Talk about two guys playing well together and carrying a team for a long time.

    Jordan and Pippen.
    Magic and Kareem.

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    I always wonder what Penny and Shaq could have done had they stayed together (and healthy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    I always wonder what Penny and Shaq could have done had they stayed together (and healthy).
    If Penny stayed healthy I think they'd have won a couple of titles easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Magic and Kareem had better teams when they won titles and went to the finals in 80s compared to Kobe and Shaq. I bet you can't name one single starting five from the Kobe and Shaq days without using Google. At the same time I bet you can name multiple Lakers starting fives from Magic and Kareem days off the top of your head. It's easy to be a duo who wins when you have multiple Hall of Famers on your team compared to Rick Fox and who else??????
    Mark Lansberger, Kurt Ramis and a Broken down Bob Macadoo were part of their core for a while...nobody there that really scares you.
    Norm Nixon was good but they traded him to start Byron Scott. Cooper was OK at best.

    IMO Worthy is the only other Star on those teams and Cornbread abused him in the Finals and it cost them a title.

    Those old Lakers lost to the best 76ers team in history, the best Celtics team in History, maybe the best Pistons team in History and the First of Jordan's 6 title teams. So when they lost they weren't exactly losing to trash teams.

    Shaq and Kobe are/were great and maybe they could have won those series the Kareem/Magic Lakers did...but I know the old Lakers would have also beat down the Pacers, 76ers and the Nets as well.

    I'd love to have seen Shaq and Kareem in thier prime going at it...talk about unmovable object versus unstoppable force. One on one I'd give slight edge to Kareem.

    Magic and Kobe one on one, I think Kobe wins with speed over Magic's strength.

    I would put both Magic and Kareem ahead in a team setting.

    I know your hate for Magic right now is real and your love for Kobe is unwavering, so I'm not trying to convince you or argue...just the way I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Magic and Kareem had better teams when they won titles and went to the finals in 80s compared to Kobe and Shaq. I bet you can't name one single starting five from the Kobe and Shaq days without using Google. At the same time I bet you can name multiple Lakers starting fives from Magic and Kareem days off the top of your head. It's easy to be a duo who wins when you have multiple Hall of Famers on your team compared to Rick Fox and who else??????
    That's because Magic made everyone around him better.

    In all honesty, I don't think we'd "remember" Michael Cooper, Byron Scott, AC Green, etc. the same way today if they had played with Seattle, Indiana or Sacramento instead. (Worthy, may be another story.) It doesn't necessarily mean Magic is better than Kobe...it's just that he was considered "great" for more than just shooting, and I think that's why you may know his supporting cast better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Magic and Kareem had better teams when they won titles and went to the finals in 80s compared to Kobe and Shaq. I bet you can't name one single starting five from the Kobe and Shaq days without using Google. At the same time I bet you can name multiple Lakers starting fives from Magic and Kareem days off the top of your head. It's easy to be a duo who wins when you have multiple Hall of Famers on your team compared to Rick Fox and who else??????
    Robert Horry vs Mark Landsberger/Jim Chones

    Derek Fisher vs Norm Nixon

    Wasn't Harper on the Kobe teams? (BTW, I'm not googling. )

    There was another smaller guard I thought on those '99-'02 teams as well.

    The 1980 team had a broken Landsberger, Jim Chones, Jamal Wilkes (I will give you he was a better shooter than any support Kobe/Shaq had), Norm Nixon. I can't remember if Rambis had been drafted yet. Cooper was off the bench.

    They beat a Philly team with Dr. J still in his prime, Darryl Dawkins, Caldwell Jones, Bobby Jones but I'm having trouble remembering their guards. (Bibby? Collins?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Mark Lansberger, Kurt Ramis and a Broken down Bob Macadoo were part of their core for a while...nobody there that really scares you.
    Norm Nixon was good but they traded him to start Byron Scott. Cooper was OK at best.

    IMO Worthy is the only other Star on those teams and Cornbread abused him in the Finals and it cost them a title.

    Those old Lakers lost to the best 76ers team in history, the best Celtics team in History, maybe the best Pistons team in History and the First of Jordan's 6 title teams. So when they lost they weren't exactly losing to trash teams.

    Shaq and Kobe are/were great and maybe they could have won those series the Kareem/Magic Lakers did...but I know the old Lakers would have also beat down the Pacers, 76ers and the Nets as well.

    I'd love to have seen Shaq and Kareem in thier prime going at it...talk about unmovable object versus unstoppable force. One on one I'd give slight edge to Kareem.

    Magic and Kobe one on one, I think Kobe wins with speed over Magic's strength.

    I would put both Magic and Kareem ahead in a team setting.

    I know your hate for Magic right now is real and your love for Kobe is unwavering, so I'm not trying to convince you or argue...just the way I see it.
    If memory serves Macadoo came along on the 1982 team. He was great off the bench for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    If memory serves Macadoo came along on the 1982 team. He was great off the bench for them.
    He gave them minutes, I don't remember him being great...but maybe he was better than I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    He gave them minutes, I don't remember him being great...but maybe he was better than I remember.
    I think he averaged double digits off the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    Mark Lansberger, Kurt Ramis and a Broken down Bob Macadoo were part of their core for a while...nobody there that really scares you.
    Norm Nixon was good but they traded him to start Byron Scott. Cooper was OK at best.

    IMO Worthy is the only other Star on those teams and Cornbread abused him in the Finals and it cost them a title.

    Those old Lakers lost to the best 76ers team in history, the best Celtics team in History, maybe the best Pistons team in History and the First of Jordan's 6 title teams. So when they lost they weren't exactly losing to trash teams.

    Shaq and Kobe are/were great and maybe they could have won those series the Kareem/Magic Lakers did...but I know the old Lakers would have also beat down the Pacers, 76ers and the Nets as well.

    I'd love to have seen Shaq and Kareem in thier prime going at it...talk about unmovable object versus unstoppable force. One on one I'd give slight edge to Kareem.

    Magic and Kobe one on one, I think Kobe wins with speed over Magic's strength.

    I would put both Magic and Kareem ahead in a team setting.

    I know your hate for Magic right now is real and your love for Kobe is unwavering, so I'm not trying to convince you or argue...just the way I see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by CincySportsFan View Post
    That's because Magic made everyone around him better.

    In all honesty, I don't think we'd "remember" Michael Cooper, Byron Scott, AC Green, etc. the same way today if they had played with Seattle, Indiana or Sacramento instead. (Worthy, may be another story.) It doesn't necessarily mean Magic is better than Kobe...it's just that he was considered "great" for more than just shooting, and I think that's why you may know his supporting cast better.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    Robert Horry vs Mark Landsberger/Jim Chones

    Derek Fisher vs Norm Nixon

    Wasn't Harper on the Kobe teams? (BTW, I'm not googling. )

    There was another smaller guard I thought on those '99-'02 teams as well.

    The 1980 team had a broken Landsberger, Jim Chones, Jamal Wilkes (I will give you he was a better shooter than any support Kobe/Shaq had), Norm Nixon. I can't remember if Rambis had been drafted yet. Cooper was off the bench.

    They beat a Philly team with Dr. J still in his prime, Darryl Dawkins, Caldwell Jones, Bobby Jones but I'm having trouble remembering their guards. (Bibby? Collins?)
    Ahh okay. So we're just going to ignore Jamaal Wilkes and Bob McAdoo Hall of Fame contributions to Lakers. We're going to ignore that Worthy came along in 1982 and was there for a large majority of the time they won and competed for titles. We're downgrading Norm Nixon, Byron Scott, AC Green, Michael Cooper, Kurt Rambis, Mark Lansberger and even Mitch Kupchak's contributions to success and say Magic made them better and then at the same time act like Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, AC Green(yeah, same guy), Robert Horry, Rick Fox, Devean George, Slava Medvedenko, Brian Shaw, Tyronn Lue, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Horace Grant and John Salley are all worthy of being mentioned with those all time Lakers greats of the 1980s.

    Magic without a doubt made everyone around him better but he didn't make the Hall Of Fame players around him Hall of Fame players. Those cats were Hall of Fame players with or without Magic. He made his role players and bench players better but that was his job and he is the best point guard to ever play the game in my opinion. Those Lakers teams would have easily defeated the same teams that Kobe and Shaq had to defeat. No argument there either. I remember exactly how good the Lakers were and the talent they had in the 80s and I remember how good they were in the early 2000s and the talent they had then. Kobe and Shaq had to do much more in order for the Lakers to win titles. For me that's enough to put them at #2 and Magic and Kareem at #3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADopted ADmiral View Post
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    I'm surprised they weren't higher. The Celtics went to another level once McHale joined the team.

    Edit: I thought they had them lower than #4. My mistake. #4 is right where I'd have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    Ahh okay. So we're just going to ignore Jamaal Wilkes and Bob McAdoo Hall of Fame contributions to Lakers. We're going to ignore that Worthy came along in 1982 and was there for a large majority of the time they won and competed for titles. We're downgrading Norm Nixon, Byron Scott, AC Green, Michael Cooper, Kurt Rambis, Mark Lansberger and even Mitch Kupchak's contributions to success and say Magic made them better and then at the same time act like Derek Fisher, Ron Harper, AC Green(yeah, same guy), Robert Horry, Rick Fox, Devean George, Slava Medvedenko, Brian Shaw, Tyronn Lue, Mark Madsen, Mitch Richmond, Horace Grant and John Salley are all worthy of being mentioned with those all time Lakers greats of the 1980s.

    Magic without a doubt made everyone around him better but he didn't make the Hall Of Fame players around him Hall of Fame players. Those cats were Hall of Fame players with or without Magic. He made his role players and bench players better but that was his job and he is the best point guard to ever play the game in my opinion. Those Lakers teams would have easily defeated the same teams that Kobe and Shaq had to defeat. No argument there either. I remember exactly how good the Lakers were and the talent they had in the 80s and I remember how good they were in the early 2000s and the talent they had then. Kobe and Shaq had to do much more in order for the Lakers to win titles. For me that's enough to put them at #2 and Magic and Kareem at #3.
    I didn't ignore them, they didn't come to mind

    Kobe and Shaq had less help I agree 100%, but they had much easier opponents as well. Shaq had no one that could match up with him in the entire league during his Lakers run (Hakeem was old then gone by then) and Kobe was Jordan 2.0 no one compared to him either then. Kobe and Shaq had no contemporaries to really challenge them yet without Phil they couldn't win.

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