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Anyone know what year this happened??? Hate showing my age here, but I can remember when the districts and regions in kentucky high school baseball were not the same as basketball, as they are today. Also, I can remember (mid-to late 70's) when the district runner-up did NOT advance to the Regional Tournament in baseball. When did this change?

Tonight makes a week exactly since Wolfe County played. In the meantime, we rained out last Friday, Double header Monday, Tue. Wed. and today. Had road game scheduled today,and tried to switch to home, where we could have played, but just couldn't make it happen on short notice. Tomorow is not looking good at all either. Got Sheldon Clark scheduled, but their coach has already said his field would not be playable and wants to come to Wolfe County. At this time, the field is messy but playable, but any amount of rain at all will change that. Would just love to get some games in, before the Districts start!

Again!

The probability increases in direct proportion to the probablity that your team would win on Thursday and Friday!

Does Kegan Webb still play for E. Jessamine?

Don't think they had one. If your giving away a MVP or Most Outstanding Player Award for this tournament, Deron Terrill wins hand down. He was incredible in the second half against Breathitt. Hit many tough shots, including the game winner with 3 seconds left. If there is a better ball handler in traffic, I'd like to see him. A great passer, as well. When you start your list of top players in the 14th Region next year, you gotta put this young man in there, somewhere. Dillion Hayes had an outstanding game as well, scoring 21 for the Wolves. Brandon Campbell played excellent defense, handled the ball well against Breathitt's press all night, and scored 8 points as well. Don't forget Salyer Denniston's 10 off the bench for the Wolves. He's only a freshman, and is going to be a great one for Wolfe County. Probably the most athletic player on the team right now. Don't forget the Hollon kid, who is the only Wolfe with any heigth at all. He played hard, blocked a couple of shots, got some big rebounds, and basically came up big against Breathitt. And, 8th grader Dillion Creech played very well for Wolfe County. All in all, a very good effort by the Wolves.

The "signs" on the clubhouse walls have been in place since the 1919 Black Sox scandal. They state that anyone involved in the game caught betting on MLB games will be banned from participating in any manner for life. There has never been mention of HOF on these signs, as Major League Baseball does not conduct the voting. Instead, the Baseball Writers Association of American, in 1991, the year before Rose would have been elgible for election, decided to make him in elgible. That was their decision, not MLB's. So, I guess you could say that in 1987 Rose knew if he got caught he would be banned from baseball, but never dreamed he would have his ticket to the Hall revoked!

You know, I talk to people all the time that tell me they refuse to watch MBL BECAUSE OF the strike and cancellation of the 1994 World Series, which happened over 14 years ago. While some of the larger markets have finally seen attendance improve, Television ratings, which is the bread and butter of most teams, have tanked and go down year after year. I have never heard a single person say they quit going to games or watching them on TV because of Pete Rose.

My thoughts, exactly! When this format begins, I look for a couple of things to happen. 1. You probably won't see nearly as many first round Regional Tournament upsets, as you may not see nearly as many coaches "saving" their number one for later and risking getting upset by a weaker team that happens to have one good pitcher. They can afford to use their best in the opening round, and still have him elgible for later. 2. Teams that have an absolute "stud", as their number one will use him through-out the Regional Tournament. Still, I kinda like this format. It should prove to be interesting, and exciting for the 16 Region winners that get to play at Applebee's.

The idea has been kicked around for the past few years, and it looks like it's finally coming. Baseball tournament will get new look in 2010 Posted by Mike Fields on January 21, 2009 For the past several years, eight semi-state winners have come to Applebee’s Park in Lexington for the last three rounds of the state tournament, and that’s the way it will be again this June. But starting in 2010, the tournament will be restructured. The semi-state round will be eliminated, and the 16 region winners will advance to Applebee’s Park for a full week of competition to determine the state baseball champion. Julian Tackett of the KHSAA unveiled the plan at the Kentucky High School Baseball Coaches Association convention in Louisville last weekend. In 2010, regional tournaments will start on Memorial Day, with semifinals three days later, and the finals the following Tuesday. That would give the regions plenty of time to be completed in case of bad weather. The 16-team state tournament would have four first-round games on Monday and Tuesday, followed by the quarterfinals on Wednesday and Thursday, the semifinals on Friday and the finals on Saturday. Pitching rules, which limit the innings a pitcher can work, would be the same for all teams in the first and second rounds regardless of what days they play, so no teams would have a pitching advantage. Alan Stein, president and CEO of the Lexington Legends whose home is Applebee’s Park, has been a booster of the 16-team format for years. “I’ve always thought it made a lot of sense, a no-brainer,” he said. “It allows a lot more kids to experience the state tournament; it means more motel rooms being filled in Lexington; the KHSAA makes more money; it’s beneficial to our company, and long-term, it’s good for baseball in the state of Kentucky.” Stein said the Legends are willing to surrender a week of prime dates in June to host the high school event, and will work with the KHSAA on the best format, taking into account possible rainouts. “We love the event, and we think it’s great for baseball overall,” Stein said. “We’ll be as flexible as we can be because we want it to happen.” Posted in Uncategorized | No Comments »

Feb. 4, 1991, the year before Rose would have been on the ballot. I still find that to be amazing. Understand, MLB has nothing to do with HOF voting. This rule was made by the Baseball Writers Association of America, the writers who do the actual voting. I find it amazing because no one was more accessible to the media than Pete Rose was; he thrived in the spotlight, and at the same time, made these writers' jobs a whole lot easier. I thought they would be the last people to turn on him, no matter what he did.

What Bud SHOULD do on TV is admit the truth. "I believe that Pete Rose was at least a contributing factor in the death of a very dear friend of mine. Although I know it was not intentional, I cannot, in good conscience, make an impartial ruling on Pete Rose and his application for re-instatement. Remember Rose was never BANNED from baseball. He has applied for reinstatement at least twice. What are the criteria for re-instatement?? New grounds here, on one has ever gone there before. Good behavior?? Well, Pete COULD have done a lot better, admittedly. Remorse???? He has shown remorse, but he should have done so years earlier. Time served?????? Once again, IMO 20 years served is pretty severe. It is not a lifetime sentence, but once again, we are talking about possible re-instatement. If this were an out-and -out ban, there would be not talk about this.

Agreed. Make no mistake, Rose committed a serious rules violation. Every ball player is aware that gambling on a professional baseball game is a no-no. But, if as evidence suggests, he bet on HIS team, always, then that is not quite the same as intentionally throwing a game, or the most serious case, a WORLD SERIES! Those are the absolute cardinal sins, and should carry a permanent ban from the game. Rose's case is somewhat less serious, and IMO, should carry somewhat of a less penalty. The Commisioner's office hasn't exactly been knocking down my door asking for my suggestions, but if they did, I would suggest that 20 years is a long time to be out of the game he loves, but it seems a reasonable amount of time considering what he did. I would then suggest they immediately re-instate Rose's elgibility with a life-time probation. One more misstep of any kind and you're gone for life, and forever, including the HOF!

Been watching responses on this thread with interest, and considered not even posting. Been through this arguement a year or so ago on Google's discussion groups and usually got raked over the coals pretty good for my support of Rose's elgibility into the HOF, but I just can't resist, so here goes: One of the biggest misconcecptions is that Rose has been banned for life by baseball. That really isn't true. In 1989, MLB, probably not wanting a possible prolonged legal battle in the courts, presented Rose with overwhelming evidence (the Dowd Report) that he had, indeed, bet on the Reds while managing them. An agreement was made between Rose and MLB; While neither side would admit to anything, Rose would accept permenent inelgibility (not a ban), from major league baseball. He also agreed to not try to overturn his inelibility through legal means. In exchange, MLB agreed not to accuse Rose of any wrong-doings, and allow him to apply for re-instatement after one year. (MLB violated their part of the agreement within minutes after it was signed. Then-Commisioner Bart Giomotti accused Rose of gambling on baseball to reporters as soon as he held a press conference) IMO, the "re-instatement" provision was simply a carrot on a stick, used to get Rose to sign the agreement. He probably thought he would be able to return to baseball after a short period of time, but, Bud Selig, who belives the whole Rose ordeal was at least a contributing factor in the death of his close friend, the then Commisioner Bart Giomoti, has NEVER had any thoughts of reinstatement for Rose. As far as the rule on the clubhouse wall goes, it simply states that anyone caught gambling on baseball would be banned from the game. The HOF is not mentioned. That rule came up two full years after Rose's ineligibility, 1991, and was made by the Baseball Writers Association, the people who vote for players into the Hall. They made a rule after the "crime" had been commited, which, if this happened in the legal world, would be un-constitutional, falling under ex post facto. It was just one last slap at Rose, which was amazing to me, considering he was probably the most accessible athelete for interviews by the very same writers whose choose to make a rule banning him from the Hall. Rose was always my very favorite athelete when I was a youngster, and even many years after that. And yes, I was as disappointed in him as anyone else when the gambling issue came to light, but, knowing the extreme competitive nature of Rose, and his desire to win at all costs, it is not really surprising to imagine him betting on his team to win.