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    Today, 01:02 AM
    I definitely get what you're saying. My point is everyone falls back on well Dalton has made 5 playoffs. Which is great. However I do think with the talent he has had around him, many qbs would have made the playoffs too with those guys. Especially in 2011, 2012, and 2014 when he didn't really do to much those seasons in helping get to the playoffs. When people defend Dalton they fall back on well he wins. Which is true, I just believe there...
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    Yesterday, 10:43 PM
    Until last year the Bengals o line has ranked as one of the best lines in football during Daltons 6 years. Last year they were horrible though. As for centers no arguments here, our center sucks. I would say that all centers have been bad over the last 20 years. Both Rich Braham and Kyle Cook were very solid for us. As for all those stacked players on super bowl teams. Why is it that they basically had one amazing year but the other years...
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    Yesterday, 10:39 PM
    Besides for two years 2013 and 2015 has Dalton looked any better than just average? Imo 2011, 2012, 2014, and 2016 were all very average by him, and I'm not sure how someone could argue that. 2013 and 2015 he played very good, except in prime time games and playoff game still. You won't hear me say McCarron looked great because I agree he did look average. However I think he would be like Dalton average most years, and occasionally break...
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    Yesterday, 12:14 PM
    I will say I am getting everything out on this topic now, so I don't have to discuss it again. I know Dalton is the qb this year and that's not changing. So with the third preseason game coming up, my focus on talks will be on how they as a team are doing, and hoping Dalton proves me wrong and gets it done. If the line can hold up, he should have a good chance to do it.
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    Yesterday, 11:42 AM
    Dalton has been surrounded by the most talent of any qb in history on both sides of the ball. That's a huge reason for their success, more so than him imo.
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    Yesterday, 11:39 AM
    When are some going to realize a huge reason Dalton has made the playoffs to much is not because of him. 2011 2012 it was the defense. 2013 he had a good year and a top 3 defense. 2014 he didn't do well but had a top 5 running game and a top 10 defense. 2015 he was having a mvp type season. But guess what games he didn't look great in still and they lost. His prime time games against a average Houston team at home and then Arizona. Last year the...
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    Aug 21, 17, 10:09 PM
    You put Dalton on the Broncos. You are putting him on a team that has already learned how to win, and as a team has that winning mindset. He wouldnt have to be the leader, he just would need to contribute. The Bengals don't have that mindset. That's why it's even more important to have a qb who is a leader who has that winning type of mindset, kind of an arrogant I am going to make sure we win mindset. Dalton is a come on guys we will be ok, we...
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    Aug 21, 17, 09:59 PM
    If they don't, do we say darn it, shucks. If only there would have been a sign to let us know that his mind set is not great in the big moments and we would never get over the top with him. There are many qbs in the NFL when paired with top 10 defenses for 5 years, a top 5 wr, a top 5 TE when healthy, and even a top 5 running game one year. Who would have led their teams with all that. Dalton undeniably has been surrounded by the best...
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    Aug 21, 17, 09:43 PM
    You have no idea if it wouldn't be better or not. I admit I can't guarntee McCarron would give us a better chance. However you can't guarntee he wouldn't. So when you all get on here and act like wow people are crazy to think McCarron would do better. People are going to state why. You may disagree but doesn't mean you know for sure either. What I do know is 6 years of data supports Dalton and even his mindset struggle big time under the bright...
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    Aug 21, 17, 09:41 PM
    Well in 6 years 11 games against the Steelers Dalton has only scored more than 20 3 times. McCarron in a backup role came in and scored more than 20 the game Dalton got hurt, then the playoff game he scored what Dalton basically averages against the Steelers. Also in 4 games McCarron does look better than Dalton did at that point in his first 4 games. Especially in big games. Shoot Dalton his first 4 years in the NFL was having ratings below...
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    Aug 20, 17, 10:47 PM
    Next Sunday needs to get here already. Wow!
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    Aug 20, 17, 01:48 PM
    I've never said he wasn't solid either, but it doesn't mean he is what this team needs. He could go to Denver, Seattle, and probably even Pittsburgh and be successful because they already have a winning mindset with their players. They as a team know how to handle the big moments. Here we have a whole team who doesn't, so it's even more important to have a qb who is a leader who can handle those moments. Which those big moments are not something...
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    Aug 20, 17, 01:42 PM
    You have zero idea if McCarron would do better or worse in those situations. I think to many of you completely down play the importance of leadership and mindset of a qb in those situations. In terms of pure passing I do believe Dalton has a little stronger arm, and is more athletic. There is no argument from me there. However being better there doesn't mean he is better for those big game situations. As bad as Dalton looks in those big games, I...
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    Aug 20, 17, 01:21 PM
    Eh regular season it's not to bad, at least not on my end on the subject. Dalton usually does good in most regular season games because they are at 1 and 4. So can't really disagree with him on those games. So usually there is much more discussion on the game or what Marvin Lewis did to mess things up with time management.
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    Aug 20, 17, 01:18 PM
    It's typical Marvin Lewis in those situations. Horrible with clock management every year. He struggles knowing when to go for it, and when to be conservative. I forget what game it was last year. A team punted to the Bengals. The Bengals has the ball at their own 35 yard line with 40 seconds left but all three timeouts. It was a game we were moving the ball well too. Most teams try to at least get in field goal range or something. The Bengals...
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    Aug 20, 17, 01:14 PM
    Good to know you are on the McCarron train now since you said you would ride with McCarron for a super bowl win :D
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    Aug 20, 17, 02:37 AM
    There is already a thread on this.
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    Aug 20, 17, 12:58 AM
    Just because I think they should move on from Dalton if they fail this year. Doesn't mean I think they will. The Bengals are loyal to a fault even to old players past their prime. So my point is say they keep Dalton the next 5 years but still never do better than just making the playoffs. Would you still say it was the right move? My point is when is enough of the same status quo. Now it seems even You and other Bengals fans have fell...
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:40 PM
    At what point did you want someone else though? By all accounts Lewis technically has been more successful than a lot of Nfl coaches considering he has made the plays exactly half of the time. A 50 percent playoff rate is really good. Obviously his lack of playoff wins though is a problem. So at what point did you want a a change? Also how is it any different than me thinking we may be better off with another qb even though Dalton like Lewis has...
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:32 PM
    Well that greatest coach in history got fired from the browns. The greatest coach in history lost the opening game to a horrible Bengals team coached by Dick Lebeau, even though he had a whole off season to prepare. He needed someone with the leadership and mindset of Brady to help shape what he and the Pats became. By all accounts he would suck to play for if you don't win. However when you have a qb who also is attention to detail to...
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:25 PM
    Yes there is. What he has failed to do is to be a true leader of this team. It's sad when Lewis has to say when Whitworth left than Dalton needs to step up and be the true leader of this team now in his 7th season. He is not a leader. Great guy and no one will ever say a bad thing about him because he is a good guy. However not a leader. A great line from a movie was winners want the ball when the game is on the line. Well in the biggest...
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:14 PM
    To add what's your thoughts on Lewis? Like him? Think he stay? Or think we need someone else?
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:14 PM
    No doubt. The Steelers own us in our history. My point is there was very little reason to believe we do any better with Dalton that game. Honestly McCarron got us the same point total Dalton usually gets us against them. Except McCarron managed to do that in a playoff game where McCarron has just as many tds as Dalton has in 4.
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    Aug 19, 17, 10:11 PM
    You realize I answered all those questions in the many novels I wrote on this subject this week. Check out the McCarron thread and I forget the other thread it was discussed in. If i took over right now. I would keep Dalton as starter and give him one more chance. If he fails again and still looks bad in prime time and playoff games. I would then trade him for draft picks because probably get a 1st and 2nd rounder for him at worst. I then...
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:55 PM
    I feel like besides qb. We agree on a lot right now. I truly do hope Dalton proves me wrong and you right and he gets us over the top.
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:52 PM
    Pauly G always likes to blitz more in preseason and early in regular season. Then he realizes it doesn't work well for them. Then goes back to the normal relying on his front four to put pressure on qb and dropping 7. Then we see them play well when he stops trying all his blitzes that never work well for us. Offensively they been very conservative with play calling. However the first team still had yet to score a td. So that is...
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:45 PM
    Check out post 4. I agree line play makes a huge difference. Having a leader at qb who will get into them also helps. Having a qb who can make a play when things aren't going well would help. McCarron has done that. If it wasn't for one of the craziest endings in NFL history they win. Dalton in his playoff games plays bad a long with everyone else. Instead of making a play to change things he usually gets worst too. And they beat...
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:35 PM
    I am not going to say AJ is like the best qb of all time. However I do think AJ leadership and mindset for big moments would be closer to a Brady than Dalton. The Pats had a good pro bowl qb in Bledsoe who took a team to the super bowl. So he was even better than a Dalton. However his backup Tom Brady was the missing piece. Most people forget that 2001 Patriots team who won the Super Bowl lost their first game that year against a horrible...
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:24 PM
    Was Daltons rookie season the defense carried them, even when Green missed a few with that knee. In the playoffs teams who win all have something in common. A qb who makes a play when they need it. No doubt the rest of the team also has had its problems including Green. However that is when it's even more important to have a leader at qb who could handle those moments to make a play to turn the tide when things are going bad. With Dalton his...
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    Aug 19, 17, 09:18 PM
    You may want to learn who you are talking to. I am not the one who complains about every little thing with Dalton. In fact I even have said many times in the regular season especially in games at 1 and 4 he is very good. However my problem is his play in prime time and playoff games. Dalton has been surrounded for his career with the best talent on offense and defense any Bengals qb has ever had. So yes he should do well. As we seen that has...
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