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    Trammell, Morris Elected to Hall of Fame By Veterans Committee

    Morris got 14 votes, Trammell received 13 from the 16 person committee. 12 were needed for election. Ted Simmons came up one vote short.

    Jack Morris and Alan Trammell voted into Hall of Fame by Modern Era Committee - CBSSports.com
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    I struggle with these, specifically Morris. Mark Appier had a higher career WAR.

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    Jack Morris will forever be remembered for one game. And it's almost like that game has made him mythical, especially when considered how starters now are considered "good" if they can get thru 6.

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    Jeez guys, he won 250 games. Let’s not diminish that, he was far better than one game. I know wins aren’t everything but that’s a ton of wins.

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    What is the "modern era committee"?

    Sorry I don't follow baseball enough to keep up .

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    I struggle with both these guys. Both really nice players. Morris was famously tough, and a workhorse. I wouldn't consider either one of the top players of their era. I'm not against having these guys in, but I think they are borderline at best.

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    Morris yes, Trammell no.

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    If Morris, why not Jim Kaat. 283 wins, 16 gold gloves and an e.r.a. almost a half a run less.

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    Tommy John has 288 wins and a medical procedure named after him and is still waiting.

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    I saw this post yesterday and wanted to get on here and complain about Trammell being selected by the committee and not Dave "My Hero" Concepcion. I got online last night and look up the career statistics of both and unfortunately Trammell had the better career. He deserves to be in the Hall, but so does my boy Dave Concepcion!

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    Trammel was going to get in as soon as Larkin got in. Their careers were pretty similar offensively speaking.

    Morris led the AL in wins for the 80s. IF you lead the league for a 10 year total in any major category, you should get into the Hall of Fame. A decade is a VERY long time to be the number 1 guy at the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexitucky View Post
    Trammel was going to get in as soon as Larkin got in. Their careers were pretty similar offensively speaking.

    Morris led the AL in wins for the 80s. IF you lead the league for a 10 year total in any major category, you should get into the Hall of Fame. A decade is a VERY long time to be the number 1 guy at the end of it.
    Was he really the #1 guy in the 80s, or did he simply lead in wins? They aren't the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Was he really the #1 guy in the 80s, or did he simply lead in wins? They aren't the same thing.
    While wins aren't a great stat for measuring a pitcher's worth and can be almost useless now. I would argue that they were a much better measure of how a pitcher performed back in the 80's.
    Starting pitchers went deeper into games and their performance had more of an impact on three team result than it does now. I know that so much depends on other factors but I think leading the league in wins back then is more impressive than it is now. That said I don't think I'd have voted for Morris. I would have for Trammell.

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    I saw a stat a while back that said Trammel played 20 years, had over 400 teammates, and never played with one hall of famer.

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