Trading Johnny Cueto!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    Really? You're going to downgrade one of the top 10 prospects in the minors because he could blow his arm out? For a 29 year old that just missed a start with am elbow problem? Let me ask you this: You are the GM of the Dodgers. The Reds offer you Cueto for Urias and Lee or another top prospect. You get Cueto for at most 18 starts after he's already missed a start and thrown 250 innings last season with a checkered injury history. OR you keep Urias, he blows arm out this season, has TJ surgery and still wins 100 games for your before free agency since he's only 19. Who would you pick? In no universe where they breathe oxygen are the Reds getting Urias for Cueto. I guess the Cubs should trade Bryant for Cueto since he might blow a knee out running the bases, right?
    Wake us all up when Urias can purchase a beer, until then settle down on the Felix Hernandez hype. Cueto is a known commodity who can help them when now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    Can't really discount that elbow if you're playing for this year can you? This isn't a guy that struck out 13 per 9 in the Carolina League. This is a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. For a half season rental with a gimpy elbow. Ain't happenin cap'n.
    How's Jurickson Profar and Byron Buxton doing in the bigs? They were the #1 OVERALL rated prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    How's Jurickson Profar and Byron Buxton doing in the bigs? They were the #1 OVERALL rated prospects.
    The second the Reds ask for Urias in a potential Cueto deal the conversation ends. Not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    The second the Reds ask for Urias in a potential Cueto deal the conversation ends. Not going to happen.
    You might be right, but a healthy Cueto help could bring a WS this year. Urias has a huge ceiling, will he reach it, who knows? I would try Zack Lee and someone else next.

    Maybe the Red Sox would deal a piece as well.

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    Today Cueto's agent pretty much said the Reds should trade him or else they'll be stuck with a compensatory pick. Can we please stop the silliness about him resigning now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Today Cueto's agent pretty much said the Reds should trade him or else they'll be stuck with a compensatory pick. Can we please stop the silliness about him resigning now?
    Do you have a link to the quote?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Today Cueto's agent pretty much said the Reds should trade him or else they'll be stuck with a compensatory pick. Can we please stop the silliness about him resigning now?
    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelCrazy View Post
    Do you have a link to the quote?
    Found it:

    Cueto's Agent Discusses Trade Possibility - MLB Trade Rumors

    “They’ve made no indications to Johnny that they want to trade him, but reading the tea leaves, if they fall out of contention, it seems to make sense from their end. If they ride the season out with him and don’t make the playoffs, then they’re stuck with a compensation pick. And, from where I sit, I think they can probably get more than that on the trade market.”

    Dixon has somewhat of a biased point of view, as a trade would make Cueto ineligible for a qualifying offer and strengthen his upcoming free agent stock to an extent. Cueto, however, is the type of free agent that will be so highly sought after that the qualifying offer has a relatively negligible impact on his stock; a club willing to shell out $150MM+ for a player is not likely to be overly swayed by the potential loss of a draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelCrazy View Post
    Do you have a link to the quote?
    It was an audio interview, but here's the relevant quote:

    “They’ve made no indications to Johnny that they want to trade him, but reading the tea leaves, if they fall out of contention, it seems to make sense from their end. If they ride the season out with him and don’t make the playoffs, then they’re stuck with a compensation pick. And, from where I sit, I think they can probably get more than that on the trade market.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Today Cueto's agent pretty much said the Reds should trade him or else they'll be stuck with a compensatory pick. Can we please stop the silliness about him resigning now?
    As soon as there is 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th in the AS game he's gone.

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    The All Star game is going to be a success regardless of if Cueto is a Red or not. It will still be a sell out and the fans will be stoked about watching Frazier and Chapman. Cueto will get a standing ovation from the fans even though he plays for a different team now and I think that would actually be awesome to witness. The Reds need to trade him as soon as possible IMO especially if he dominates in his next couple appearances.

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    Is Cueto worth more now or at the trade deadline? I kind of lean towards the deadline because teams get desperate, and when teams get desperate they are willing to give a little more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOOGY View Post
    Is Cueto worth more now or at the trade deadline? I kind of lean towards the deadline because teams get desperate, and when teams get desperate they are willing to give a little more.
    That makes sense but a team also doesn't get him for as many starts. He needs a couple more starts to prove his health but then I'd ship him off as quick as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOOGY View Post
    Is Cueto worth more now or at the trade deadline? I kind of lean towards the deadline because teams get desperate, and when teams get desperate they are willing to give a little more.
    It would stand to reason that the sooner that they could move him the greater the potential return if he proves he's healthy. Those same teams that would be interested in him at the deadline would be interested in him now--except they'd have him for 4-5 more starts. In fact, there would likely be more teams that feel as though they are in it now. All the GM has to do is let everyone know that he's available now.

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    Seriously, are there people holding out hope that the Reds are gonna win 30 of the next 38 and climb back in this race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Today Cueto's agent pretty much said the Reds should trade him or else they'll be stuck with a compensatory pick. Can we please stop the silliness about him resigning now?
    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    It was an audio interview, but here's the relevant quote:

    “They’ve made no indications to Johnny that they want to trade him, but reading the tea leaves, if they fall out of contention, it seems to make sense from their end. If they ride the season out with him and don’t make the playoffs, then they’re stuck with a compensation pick. And, from where I sit, I think they can probably get more than that on the trade market.”
    Well, after reading that, he didn't 'pretty much' say it. He said it. Pretty much word for word.

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