Reds at Cubs Series 8/9 thru 8/12/12

**All In** · Aug 11, 12, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Shutitdown

If the Pirates go 25-25 the rest of the year the Brewers would have to finish 37-14 to pass them. That seems logical to me

If they collapse like last season, the Brewers wouldn't even have to do that good. It's a stretch, Pirates need another bat, Brewers just playing out the season. What amazed me about their weekday games against the Reds was drawing 30-40 thousand a game and being completely out of any kind of race, so the support is there to keep them from completely tanking

**dmderringer10** · Aug 11, 12, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by All In

If they collapse like last season, the Brewers wouldn't even have to do that good. It's a stretch, Pirates need another bat, Brewers just playing out the season. What amazed me about their weekday games against the Reds was drawing 30-40 thousand a game and being completely out of any kind of race, so the support is there to keep them from completely tanking

Those numbers are from season ticket sales. The actual attendance wasn't close to that.

**All In** · Aug 11, 12, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by LRCW

Brewers will pass them? Come on now. Drink some coffee, and get back with us.

Having an Irish one

**All In** · Aug 11, 12, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by dmderringer10

Those numbers are from season ticket sales. The actual attendance wasn't close to that.

So when the Reds only draw an announced crowd of 20,000 on Monday-Wednesday games, there's really only 12-15 thousand there, right? or does this only apply to other teams in the division?

Have the Reds had a crowd above 30,000 for a Monday or Tuesday game? Anyone? I really don't know. They did have the best record in baseball for awhile there, Brewers way out of it

**LRCW** · Aug 11, 12, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by dmderringer10

Those numbers are from season ticket sales. The actual attendance wasn't close to that.

The box score list around 40,000. I don't know how much Miller Park seats, but it looked like it was pretty close to capacity watching the game.

**dmderringer10** · Aug 11, 12, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by All In

So when the Reds only draw an announced crowd of 20,000 on Monday-Wednesday games, there's really only 12-15 thousand there, right? or does this only apply to other teams in the division?

Have the Reds had a crowd above 30,000 for a Monday or Tuesday game? Anyone? I really don't know. They did have the best record in baseball for awhile there, Brewers way out of it

If you really think the announced crowd is the amount of people who show up, especially on a weekday for a team way out of the race there's nothing I can do to explain it differently.

You think whatever you want.

**LRCW** · Aug 11, 12, 12:19 PM

Cozart 6, Stubbs 8, Phillips 4, Ludwick 7, Frazier 3, Heisey 9, Valdez 5, Hanigan 2, Arroyo RHP

**ekubum** · Aug 11, 12, 12:24 PM

I miss Votto.

**EZ Living** · Aug 11, 12, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by dmderringer10

If you really think the announced crowd is the amount of people who show up, especially on a weekday for a team way out of the race there's nothing I can do to explain it differently.

You think whatever you want.

Typical response to what seems to be a valid question.

**gametime** · Aug 11, 12, 01:36 PM

Bottom had an additional procedure on his knee today. Add 7-10 more days to his absence...

**gametime** · Aug 11, 12, 01:37 PM

Damn auto correct. Votto...

**gametime** · Aug 11, 12, 01:51 PM

So with the setback Votto will likely not return in August. Yikes...

**LRCW** · Aug 11, 12, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by gametime

So with the setback Votto will likely not return in August. Yikes...

Time for the offense to pick it up again.

**UKMustangFan** · Aug 11, 12, 02:38 PM

Rolen needs to be DL'd. Having 2 guys (Rolen and Cairo) that are unavailable taking up roster spots is retarded.

Votto's knee was more serious than what the Reds said. 2 more additional weeks at the earliest. That puts his return into September if my math is accurate.

**All In** · Aug 11, 12, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by ekubum

I miss Votto.

I'll second that, the Reds could win the World Series this year, but him and Chapman are the two guys I pay to see.

**BigGreenHorse** · Aug 11, 12, 02:49 PM

We need a trade now. We don't miss Cairo has he been out? Grandpa could throw his back out before playoffs. Still worry about "Mr. Contact" Arroyo, "Boom Boom"Leake and "Mr. Inconsistency" Bailey

Add in "Down The Drain"Ondrusek and you have concerns

**LRCW** · Aug 11, 12, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by UKMustangFan

Rolen needs to be DL'd. Having 2 guys (Rolen and Cairo) that are unavailable taking up roster spots is retarded.

Votto's knee was more serious than what the Reds said. 2 more additional weeks at the earliest. That puts his return into September if my math is accurate.

What's wrong with Cairo?

**All In** · Aug 11, 12, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by BigGreenHorse

We need a trade now. We don't miss Cairo has he been out? Grandpa could throw his back out before playoffs. Still worry about "Mr. Contact" Arroyo, "Boom Boom"Leake and "Mr. Inconsistency" Bailey

Add in "Down The Drain"Ondrusek and you have concerns

Didn't the Reds sit down Leake last year after his innings got to a certain amount? Worry about him and Bailey also. Think eventually LeCure, maybe Simon may try a few starts before season's end. If Masset comes in strong and the new guy(already forgot his name) could close, maybe Chapman gets in a few starts before the playoffs(just saying)