Reds At Indians (7/9-7/11)

**coldweatherfan** · Jul 11, 18, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by nkuclubbaseball19

1) Votto comes up huge.
2) Suarez with the insurance run.
3) Any comment on Scooter’s baserunning?
4) The Cleveland bullpen is atrocious.

Allen just didn't have it last night.

Those are the first runs he's given up since June 9th.

**AverageJoesGym** · Jul 11, 18, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24

Joey Votto shows why every Red wants him at bat with a game on the line – The Athletic

Very interesting comment from Votto that he took the 3-1 pitch because I walk would tie the game and he knew he'd get another pitch to hit at 3-2.

With the way @sumoroyal talks about Votto's baseball IQ I'm shocked he knew it was that way.

**LRCW** · Jul 11, 18, 10:16 AM

Trevor Bauer seemed to have some issue with, or seemed to be taunting Votto a bit last night. Is there a history between those two?

**nkuclubbaseball19** · Jul 11, 18, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by LRCW

Trevor Bauer seemed to have some issue with, or seemed to be taunting Votto a bit last night. Is there a history between those two?

I read that Bauer had shook off the catcher 8 times prior to the pitch that he struck Votto out on. He said it was because he knows Votto is a smart hitter and would know his tendencies in every count. Therefore he had to figure out what to throw that Votto wouldn't expect.

I don't think it was any issue or history. Just a chess match (as Bauer called it).

**AverageJoesGym** · Jul 11, 18, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by LRCW

Trevor Bauer seemed to have some issue with, or seemed to be taunting Votto a bit last night. Is there a history between those two?

From what I've heard about Bauer he's just a jerk in general.

**plantmanky** · Jul 11, 18, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym

Very interesting comment from Votto that he took the 3-1 pitch because I walk would tie the game and he knew he'd get another pitch to hit at 3-2.

With the way @sumoroyal talks about Votto's baseball IQ I'm shocked he knew it was that way.

Votto can say that after the game is over, but his reaction when he took the 3-1 strike was anything but that thought, pitch was right down the middle of the plate. He was kicking himself for taking it at the time. Again, it worked, he is the hero of the night. Had it not, he is saying something different.

**TAC** · Jul 11, 18, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by HammerTime

From @jluckhaupt: Votto in his career in the 9th inning or later with a chance to tie or take the lead is hitting: .298/.460/.536

Since 1970, only Bonds (1.022), Chipper (1.004), Sheffield (1.002), and Helton (.998) have a higher OPS in those situations (min 300 such PA)

That's lower than his normal average isn't it?

**AverageJoesGym** · Jul 11, 18, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by plantmanky

Votto can say that after the game is over, but his reaction when he took the 3-1 strike was anything but that thought, pitch was right down the middle of the plate. He was kicking himself for taking it at the time. Again, it worked, he is the hero of the night. Had it not, he is saying something different.

Probably because he was looking for a different type of pitch and got fooled in spite of the location. He wasn't prepared for it and instead of taking a bad swing he took it.

**ColonelPops** · Jul 11, 18, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by plantmanky

Votto can say that after the game is over, but his reaction when he took the 3-1 strike was anything but that thought, pitch was right down the middle of the plate. He was kicking himself for taking it at the time. Again, it worked, he is the hero of the night. Had it not, he is saying something different.

Perfect. We now know a guy is lying. Thanks.

**plantmanky** · Jul 11, 18, 08:10 PM

Votto with the olay on the grounder. You guys cant continue to give him a pass for his lazy fielding can you?

**plantmanky** · Jul 11, 18, 08:25 PM

Tucker has to sell that he made that tag there (whether he did or not) gotta sell it.

**plantmanky** · Jul 11, 18, 08:27 PM

Mahle with a very bad outing tonight.

**plantmanky** · Jul 11, 18, 08:29 PM

Votto with a good effort to dive for that ball while he is standing on first base, keeps it in the infield, but allows the hit. Gotta make that play if you are an All Star.