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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Obviously, you have never played baseball. If he is a good a hitter as you say, and he is, his chances on 2-1 are just as good as 2-0. Honestly, you have never heard a coach say take one or make him throw you a strike. I am turning 60 and you just be younger. The game is played much differently than 30 years ago.
    I played baseball and have coached baseball. 2-0 is a hitters count. Telling a hitter to take what may be the best pitch they see is foolish.

    It’s obvious you have a hatred of JDV as much as you say you don’t. But look at the number of people telling you you’re wrong. Maybe you’ll figure it out one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Obviously, you have never played baseball. If he is a good a hitter as you say, and he is, his chances on 2-1 are just as good as 2-0. Honestly, you have never heard a coach say take one or make him throw you a strike. I am turning 60 and you just be younger. The game is played much differently than 30 years ago.
    Thats what you tell little leaguers and high school kids.

    Your thoughts on Votto have become more comedic relief more than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    Where are you getting the 4th in MLB in defensive WAR? This doesn't show him in the top 43.

    MLB Wins Above Replacement - WAR - Major League Baseball - ESPN
    I'd guess your link is overall WAR vs just defensive WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Garrett just walked the 7th and 8th batters in the lineup. Neither one on them swung on 2-0 or even 3-1 counts because they made him throw a strike and both walked. I honestly am amazed that people on here don't understand my point. It does not matter if you are the best hitter or the worse. You take on 2-0, down one in the ninth inning. By him swinging, tells you he would rather get a hit than try to work a walk. I can not explain it any better.
    This is just funny people complain when Votto walks to much. People complain when he swings at a pitch on a hitter's count. Basically lose lose for him with some people.

    No problem at all with him swinging at a 2 0 count down one run. If they were down 4 then maybe you have a point. However they were one swing away from a tie game with one of the best hitters in baseball over the last 10 years. I am fine with him swinging. I really doubt you come on here and say after he hit a double or homerun in that situation. Well nice hit but he shouldn't have swung. Its very ways to criticize when it doesnt work out. One run game I am good with swinging. 4 run game if they need a big inning in the last inning. Then yes make him throw a strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    I'd guess your link is overall WAR vs just defensive WAR.
    It's got seasonal, just offense and just defense. He's nowhere to be found there or on baseball reference in defensive WAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukcatfan17 View Post
    He is really coming on since staying on the right handed side of the plate. Switch hitting was killing him.
    When did he stop for good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJAlltheWay24 View Post
    You're welcome...jk. Hope you didn't just ruin my heater!
    Uh yeah about that..... Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    When did he stop for good?
    I thought he batted lefty at least once each of the last 2 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AverageJoesGym View Post
    It's got seasonal, just offense and just defense. He's nowhere to be found there or on baseball reference in defensive WAR.

    MLB Wins Above Replacement - WAR - Major League Baseball - ESPN
    Baseball reference has DWAR only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime View Post
    Baseball reference has DWAR only.
    Yeah I looked there too.

    Year-by-Year Top-Tens Leaders &amp Records for Defensive WAR | Baseball-Reference.com

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    Just know how I was taught but that it was in the 70's and 80's. I always it was my job to get on base as it was Votto's yesterday before Scooter and Suarez. Nobody thought Votto was going to hit a HR, did you? Like I said different time and game has changed.

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    Hamilton with a double, stolen base and scored a run.

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    Anyone going to say it. I can’t believe Suarez swung in a 3-0 count. Terrible baseball. Especially since Lester just walked the batter in front of him and they are down by 1 Run.

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    He is a Home Run hitter, Votto is not. You did not mention that they said he did not like hitting on 3-0 and that was his first hit all year on 3-0. Please tell the whole story. If Votto would have drew a walk yesterday, that may have happened yesterday and it is not the last inning.

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    Sure glad Hamilton never swung on 3-0. He scored from first on a stolen base thanks to the Cubs being lazy.

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