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    I don’t like them because of the whole America’s Team thing. Like the Cowboys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    I don’t like them because of the whole America’s Team thing. Like the Cowboys.
    Ted Turner = Jerry Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcpapa View Post
    Waaahhh on the Garber thing.

    Quit hating on Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    5. Using Ace Closer just to stop The Streak.
    Having never heard of this, I went back to look up the details about it. I don't think this applies. Garber entered the game to start the seventh inning and the Braves up only 8-4. That's a losable lead, especailly against a team that was 13 games better than them at that point. The Braves had scored five runs to take the lead in the 5th, and scored eight runs in the bottom of the 7th and 8th, so clearly, runs could be had. If he had come in fresh for the top of the 9th with a 12 run lead, or even worse, just to face Rose, then I think you'd have a gripe.

    Quote Originally Posted by LRCW View Post
    Not only that, but Garber wouldn't throw a strike. Pete had to chase pitches out of the zone.
    I watched the video of it for the first time today. Pete bunted at the first pitch of the at-bat, a belt-high pitch on the inside corner. I agree, the other four pitches were balls, though strike two (pitch four) would have been close to a knee-high strike if he took it, and strike three (pitch five) was actually a phenomenal pitch that tailed away. It was a ball, but it was a pitch that looked like it might be a strike. A very good strikeout pitch. A pitcher isn't under an obligation to throw it straight down the pipe and dare him to beat him. He gave him one great pitch to hit, another decent, two unhittable, and fooled him to strike him out.




    I understand we all develop hatred of certain teams and tend to hold onto it even if its no longer true - I do the same - but I did find it interesting that most of the reasons noted in this thread aren't even in the last 15 years or so. At least I could get behind it if you all were talking about Brian McCann and the fun police days....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFire View Post
    Having never heard of this, I went back to look up the details about it. I don't think this applies. Garber entered the game to start the seventh inning and the Braves up only 8-4. That's a losable lead, especailly against a team that was 13 games better than them at that point. The Braves had scored five runs to take the lead in the 5th, and scored eight runs in the bottom of the 7th and 8th, so clearly, runs could be had. If he had come in fresh for the top of the 9th with a 12 run lead, or even worse, just to face Rose, then I think you'd have a gripe.



    I watched the video of it for the first time today. Pete bunted at the first pitch of the at-bat, a belt-high pitch on the inside corner. I agree, the other four pitches were balls, though strike two (pitch four) would have been close to a knee-high strike if he took it, and strike three (pitch five) was actually a phenomenal pitch that tailed away. It was a ball, but it was a pitch that looked like it might be a strike. A very good strikeout pitch. A pitcher isn't under an obligation to throw it straight down the pipe and dare him to beat him. He gave him one great pitch to hit, another decent, two unhittable, and fooled him to strike him out.




    I understand we all develop hatred of certain teams and tend to hold onto it even if its no longer true - I do the same - but I did find it interesting that most of the reasons noted in this thread aren't even in the last 15 years or so. At least I could get behind it if you all were talking about Brian McCann and the fun police days....
    Come on. He clearly didn't want Pete extending his streak. Both players acknowledged after the game. I know you're a Braves fan, I understand you defending the Braves pitcher, but it is what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFire View Post
    Having never heard of this, I went back to look up the details about it. I don't think this applies. Garber entered the game to start the seventh inning and the Braves up only 8-4. That's a losable lead, especailly against a team that was 13 games better than them at that point. The Braves had scored five runs to take the lead in the 5th, and scored eight runs in the bottom of the 7th and 8th, so clearly, runs could be had. If he had come in fresh for the top of the 9th with a 12 run lead, or even worse, just to face Rose, then I think you'd have a gripe.
    It was the first time in the season that the Braves had him come in with a more than two-run lead in the 7th.
    It was only the second time that he was brought in with a 4 run or more lead, the other time was with bases loaded in the 9th against the Padres on September 11th.
    You can tell by his celebration that's all he cared about, you don't get that excited for a 16-4 win in a season where your team is going nowhere.

    More power to him, he got him out...doesn't mean I have to like it.

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    You surely have to like Dale Murphy, right? I doubt he ever committed even a venial sin in his life (for all you Catholics out there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    You surely have to like Dale Murphy, right? I doubt he ever committed even a venial sin in his life (for all you Catholics out there).
    I think like may be too strong, I just didn't hate him...how's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    You surely have to like Dale Murphy, right? I doubt he ever committed even a venial sin in his life (for all you Catholics out there).
    I'm not Catholic, but I always liked Dale Murphy. I don't hate the Braves though either. As a matter of fact the Braves will probably be the team I root for to win the World Series assuming the Reds don't make the playoffs. People better get used to the Braves being in the playoffs because they have great young talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRCW View Post
    I'm not Catholic, but I always liked Dale Murphy. I don't hate the Braves though either. As a matter of fact the Braves will probably be the team I root for to win the World Series assuming the Reds don't make the playoffs. People better get used to the Braves being in the playoffs because they have great young talent.
    The only thing I want to hear out of Atlanta is, "What'll ya have, what'll ya have?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    I think like may be too strong, I just didn't hate him...how's that?
    If that's the best you can do, we'll have to live with it. We appreciate the concession, however distasteful it may be to you. BTW, I thought maybe you were a closet Mets fan, the way you dissed Chipper. He absolutely killed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcjkbt View Post
    If that's the best you can do, we'll have to live with it. We appreciate the concession, however distasteful it may be to you. BTW, I thought maybe you were a closet Mets fan, the way you dissed Chipper. He absolutely killed them.
    No, the last Met that I liked was Seaver maybe Gooden.

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    I drove through Atlanta at 2:00 AM a couple of Wednesday mornings ago. It was a delight to be practically the only person on the road.

    It it was a heck of a lot different coming back this past Monday just before noon.

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    And I know it borders on blasphemy to say this in these here parts. I didn’t like Pete Rose before all the gambling stuff came out. He can’t pronounce the letter “L”, for crying out wowed.

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    Winker singles and Votto homers to give Reds a 2-0 lead after two batters.

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