Reds acquire Matt Harvey from Mets

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    Reds acquire Matt Harvey from Mets

    For Devin Mesoraco

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    Boils down to the Reds probably feel they can move Matt Harvey at the deadline for more than what they can Mesoraco.

    Not a lot of "upside" to the deal, but no downside either.

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    Worth a shot I guess.

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    Mesoraco would not be a Red after this season. Maybe Harvey can resurrect his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I gotta go to work View Post
    Mesoraco would not be a Red after this season. Maybe Harvey can resurrect his career.
    Harvey won't be either. If he gets it turned around quickly, then the Reds will have someone to dangle out there in a trade. If it takes time (past the trade deadline), and he has a good September, then he's leaving via FA for a bigger check than the Reds should/would write. If he can't flat out do anything, then they'll let him go without giving it a second thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKMustangFan View Post
    Boils down to the Reds probably feel they can move Matt Harvey at the deadline for more than what they can Mesoraco.

    Not a lot of "upside" to the deal, but no downside either.
    You really think they are have that much foresight to flip him? I feel like it’s a depth play and maybe sign him to a 3 year 15 mill if he’s average.

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    If Harvey became a worthwhile starter, what contract could he expect in free agency?

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    Harvey is making $5.6 million right now. If he returns to top of the rotation form he will garner probably in the $15-20 mil a year range. If he’s just mediocre, he’ll probably still get a raise to $7.5-10 mil. Sad but true.

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    They say that they see a couple mechanical things that can help him. If that’s the case and he rights the ship for the next two months, then they definitely try and flip him. His trade value if he turns it around is double a backup catcher making $13.5 million whose played 125 games out of a possible 648 in the last 4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Pantusso View Post
    They say that they see a couple mechanical things that can help him. If that’s the case and he rights the ship for the next two months, then they definitely try and flip him. His trade value if he turns it around is double a backup catcher making $13.5 million whose played 125 games out of a possible 648 in the last 4 years.
    I'd say it's more than that.

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    I think the Reds got some money from the Mets too. I liked Meso though, if he could have stayed healthy he could have been a great hitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernie Pantusso View Post
    They say that they see a couple mechanical things that can help him. If that’s the case and he rights the ship for the next two months, then they definitely try and flip him. His trade value if he turns it around is double a backup catcher making $13.5 million whose played 125 games out of a possible 648 in the last 4 years.
    It comes down to one thing for Harvey - if he gets his fastball back over 94 MPH then he has a chance to be effective again. This season he has been sitting around 93. In his high point years several years back, he was around 97 MPH. Watch the radar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PP1 View Post
    I think the Reds got some money from the Mets too. I liked Meso though, if he could have stayed healthy he could have been a great hitter.
    The way the deal works, the Mets are paying the rest of Harvey’s contract this year, and the Reds are paying Mesoraco’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voice of Reason View Post
    It comes down to one thing for Harvey - if he gets his fastball back over 94 MPH then he has a chance to be effective again. This season he has been sitting around 93. In his high point years several years back, he was around 97 MPH. Watch the radar.
    Yup, which results in a 5.00 ERA guy... hasn’t had a plus pitch since 2015. He certainly hasn’t adapted to the decreased velocity. He’s got minor league “stuff” right now.

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