All A state tournament

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    All A state tournament

    Louisville Holy Cross defeats a very well coached Hancock County team in state final
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    Poorly run is a compliment to whoever ran that tournament.

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    Watched LHC for a few innings and they looked very solid. Not surprised at the result. Hancock had a squeaker over Model. Weather sucked. Its a great tourney when weather is good.

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    Weather forces the committee to have to make some tough decisions...not everyone is going to like the decisions. They probably would have had to stop the games at 3:00 in order to tarp all four fields. Games on some fields were running an hour-plus behind schedule. In order to get all the games in that they needed to on Saturday night, they might have had to play until 2:00 a.m.; and then who knows if the outfields would have been playable. We had a ton of rain at our hotel.
    So the options would have been still cancelling some games or the losers bracket; or putting all games on a 1:15 time limit. If there had been a time limit on the games, i'm sure 50% of the teams would have complained about that. Weather sucked...

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    How did Raceland fare against LHC ? Is that who knocked them out ? Did it end up being a single elim tourney ?

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    The paper saus the Rams got beat by Holy Cross 6 to 3.Looked to be a good game with tha Rams winning until the fifth inning when they gave up four runs.Good job girls.

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    BiggDaddy, I think that's a poor excuse.

    1. Anyone running a tournament like this should have contingent plans ahead of time, knowing the likelihood of bad weather this time of year and in this local. Instead of making things up on the spot.
    2. I head from someone on the committee that a double elimination would have fewer games. Not significantly, and the time spent in teams waiting for outcomes grossly out weighs the number of games.
    In a pool play, you know exactly who you're playing and when (at least when the previous game is over). There's no waiting for other fields or other teams, it simply is if the game runs long you get pushed back a little, but at the end of the pool, it all washes out (some games go quick, some long). This is the reason games were running behind, not because games were taking long.
    Anyone who can't realize that immediately shouldn't be running this type of tournament.
    3. Tarping only one field was deceitful. At that point, they were not planning on continuing the double elimination tournament, and they should have said as much. Stopping the games earlier would have been the better option if they truly wanted to finish the tournament. But obviously that was not their intention. Anyone who acts in that manner should not be in charge of a tournament like this.

    I have no doubt that all teams would have been OK with a knowledge of a time limit on the game (of maybe 1:45) and then even bringing that lower if weather looked that bad, verses completely changing the tournament and nearly all teams playing only 2 games. There was plenty of time to complete the tournament the way it was originally set up even without a time limit, if it would have been handled properly. Those running the tournament should be ashamed and should apologize. If they are running it next year, they should have a better plan in place.

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    I totally agree, for a State Tournament it was the poorest ran tourney I have ever seen. I could see if it was a mom and pop's tourney, but come on, someone needs to be held accountable! They had that weather predicted for a week, in my opinion the kids were not on their top priority. This was my daughters senior year and that was a joke!! For the juniors that think we have one more year to get there:
    1. I hope you get there
    2. Hopefully they move the tournament somewhere else

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    JamTime....you probably have more insight than I do at running tournaments like this (if your daughter plays travel ball and go to these tourneys like this every weekend in the summer). The way our team was forced into a third consecutive game in the winners bracket with NO time to rest or eat wasnt fair, and it showed in our early innings of that game against Hancock. Tarping just one field probably did dictate what their plans were for the next day. I also feel that they probably had an idea of how far or how many games had to be completed by the end of the day Saturday in order to complete the tourney and not cancel any games for Sunday. I spoke with someone from St Henry during our game against Jenkins and appeared St Henry was waiting an awfully long time to play your second game against KCC. So, i will have to take your word as to what you say about the games running behind on the other fields and whatever was going on during our game against Jenkins. All i know is that our first game at 10:30 barely started on time (I think that was the second game of the day on that field) and then right away at 12:00 our game was an hour late (starting at 1:00) on the other field.

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    We played 3 games back to back to back. When your in the Winner's bracket, that should NEVER happen. When we played Hancock, out players were spent, some were complaining about feeling like they were going to pass out. Our pitcher, my DD had nothing on her pitches at all. You should not put any team in this situation. Also, we played about 2 innings with it Thundering!! That's another Rule Broken! This whole tournament was a Big Pile of

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    Why is it anything but a double elimination tournament to begin with? The state tournament is straight double elimination tournament and the draw happens weeks in advance or so they say. Hoping this year draw isn't as staked as last years toward one bracket or the other.

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    Started keeping up with softball last year and it seems that there is a lot of problems with the state and all A state tournament. Has this been going on for some years or just recently? I would think someone from the committees would reply with a explanation, or at least say sorry and get some suggestions and actually use them. Why can't there be multiple facilities used, I would think that there's other fields around besides just at the tournament. Might be a little more driving, but could be well worth it????

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    I've heard they've never really had great weather on whatever weekend this fell on. Pool Play versus a two-and-out format really isn't that much of a difference in the total number of games played (Pool Play just allows each team to get a guaranteed number of 3 games). Due to the skill level in these small schools from small regions of the state to the other regions where fast-pitch is more popular, there are quite of few games that were (or could be) three-inning run ruled variety. So Pool Play will still allow the expected or favored teams to advance to the elimination round. Changing the format to the 2-and-out eliminates the games that aren't necessary (pool play) and makes almost every game a variety of an elimination game. Losing the majority of a day caused less-than-ideal decisions to be made. Dont get me wrong, i'm not saying things could have been done differently or better. But the committee had to make some unpopular decisions.

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    So the legitimate State tournament is held at this location as well? When you have the best team from each region represented, do the State games run on-time for the most part? Like I said in our games, our first game (second one on the field) barely started on time; and our second game (third on the field for the day) was already an hour+plus behind schedule.....how do you get those games back on track for the rest of the day (if you're not lucky enough to get a three-inning run rule)? are you going to have time limits on the State games? Time limits for the First Round only?

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