Updated Maher Rankings 1/31

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    Updated Maher Rankings 1/31

    The new rankings have been posted. Check out the Movers of the Week, Upset of the Week, Region Strengths and Games of the Week upcoming. Let us know what you think, as always.

    Maher Rankings | Kentucky High School Soccer Rankings

    top 20:
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    1 Elizabethtown
    2 Butler
    3 Male
    4 Mercer County
    5 Murray
    6 DuPont Manual
    7 Mercy
    8 Bowling Green
    9 Allen County-Scottsville
    10 Franklin County
    11 Holmes
    12 Ryle
    13 Lincoln County
    14 Bullitt East
    15 Simon Kenton
    16 Sacred Heart
    17 Campbell County
    18 Owensboro Catholic
    19 Southwestern
    20 Eastern
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    Dang, Mason County not in the top 20 at 18-3 and losses to #3, #11 and #17. Beat #5 All A Champs, #12 and #15. Tough to make the top 20!!!!!

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    From #10 to not top 20. And losing to a very good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Dang, Mason County not in the top 20 at 18-3 and losses to #3, #11 and #17. Beat #5 All A Champs, #12 and #15. Tough to make the top 20!!!!!
    Going to have to fully agree with this. Something is seriously off with this ranking system to not have MC in the top 20. They were a final four team last year and lost no one. Not sure how this is compiled but that doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydraman View Post
    Going to have to fully agree with this. Something is seriously off with this ranking system to not have MC in the top 20. They were a final four team last year and lost no one. Not sure how this is compiled but that doesn't make any sense.
    What is their strength of schedule rating?

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    Anytime you take a bus load of HS girls for a ride exceeding an hour, during a school week, the potential for coming out flat is large. MC body of work merits a top 10 ranking. The Campbell County loss is an anomaly and weighed way to heavily.

    BTW, based upon LIT results, there is some argument for changes at the top.

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    MC SOC is 16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddog15 View Post
    MC SOC is 16
    16, what does that mean? 1-100? 1-20? What?

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    Hardwood ask earlier what Mason Co strength of schedule was. Based on this information it is 16. I am not sure how many teams we have in the state so i cant give you 16 out of ????. There is more than 20 and less than 5000

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    There are 269 girls teams in the state. Mason County dropped from #16 to #23 mostly caused by the 13 point loss to Campbell. They dropped 2.5 scaled rating points, because they lost by 13 to a team they were supposed to beat. The system does view that harshly. However, the # ranking points that they dropped is a little more complicated. It depends on what the teams around them did. Southwestern, for example, was only 0.01 points behind them last week so not surprising that they jumped them. Imagine the outcry we would get from the Campbell County fans if they were still below them.

    Still we do understand the single bad game phenomenon. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a bounce back game, and move right on back up!

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    Mason beat Murray and we have been behind them the whole year. This is OK, Mason likes being disrespected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Mason beat Murray and we have been behind them the whole year. This is OK, Mason likes being disrespected.
    We're used to it. Especially on the girls page.

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    so i will ask again.....the way things are done in Kentucky high school basketball.....these rankings mean what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumoroyal View Post
    Mason beat Murray and we have been behind them the whole year. This is OK, Mason likes being disrespected.
    Did you read the soccer math's explanation? Its just math! No reason to take offense.

    Murray is 24 - 1, with only the 2 point loss to a very good Mason. Murray, with the best record in the state, is #5 on this math driven poll.

    So, if Math soccer decided to ignore the math, where should Mason be? #4? Finally above Murray where they belong? Or should Murray be much lower??

    Lots of teams listed here have been ranked below teams they have beat. Mercy, Bowling Green, ACS, Ryle? None are whining about respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoccerMath View Post
    There are 269 girls teams in the state. Mason County dropped from #16 to #23 mostly caused by the 13 point loss to Campbell. They dropped 2.5 scaled rating points, because they lost by 13 to a team they were supposed to beat. The system does view that harshly. However, the # ranking points that they dropped is a little more complicated. It depends on what the teams around them did. Southwestern, for example, was only 0.01 points behind them last week so not surprising that they jumped them. Imagine the outcry we would get from the Campbell County fans if they were still below them.

    Still we do understand the single bad game phenomenon. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a bounce back game, and move right on back up!
    Would it be correct to say that your system rewards teams for not scheduling terrible teams? I know that's harsh and I don't mean to imply that teams from one area are bad and can't compete with another area.

    I ask because I noticed that Mason County is one spot behind Henry Clay. At first glance, it doesn't look like Henry Clay has played more "top 25" teams than Mason. Furthermore, I think Scott County is the only top 25 team that they've actually defeated. Mason definitely has more wins against top 25 teams. But... they also have played more teams that had no chance of defeating them.

    To be clear, I have no vested interest in the answer. Just trying to clear things up.

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