Trinity: More with Less?

**EastSideJunkie** · Nov 25, 06, 11:19 PM

Not going to comment on the thread but it got me thinking? OK, so Trinity has been to the finals six of seven years under Beatty. How many Division I kids have they produced in that time. I could only think of three

1. Brohm
2. Murray kid at Miami, Ohio
3. Dylan Thiry at Northwestern

Are there others? That is kind of a huge statement. So many titles and so few Division I players. And honestly, how many do they have on this year's team? Not many.

**tcjkbt** · Nov 26, 06, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by EastSideJunkie

Not going to comment on the thread but it got me thinking? OK, so Trinity has been to the finals six of seven years under Beatty. How many Division I kids have they produced in that time. I could only think of three

1. Brohm
2. Murray kid at Miami, Ohio
3. Dylan Thiry at Northwestern

Are there others? That is kind of a huge statement. So many titles and so few Division I players. And honestly, how many do they have on this year's team? Not many.

Will Rueff....DL at Miami of Ohio.
Will Heineman....OL at Eastern Kentucky.
Eric Senn....DB at Yale.
DeQuese May.....RB at Villanova(?)
Steve Orndorff (WR), Edddie Webb (PK) and Blaine Donnell (WR)....freshman walk-ons at U of L.

May be others.

**LSURock** · Nov 26, 06, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by tcjkbt

Will Rueff....DL at Miami of Ohio.
Will Heineman....OL at Eastern Kentucky.
Eric Senn....DB at Yale.
DeQuese May.....RB at Villanova(?)
Steve Orndorff (WR), Edddie Webb (PK) and Blaine Donnell (WR)....freshman walk-ons at U of L.

May be others.

Rueff never played for Coach Beatty. He graduated in 2000 (99 football season, Kevin Wright). So the three mentioned would be the only D1 players and Murray was a walk-on. Hennessy (class of 02) went down to Middle Tenn. to play football but I don't know if he ever played. Jeff Sorg (class of 02) signed with Morehead and played one year. Savko (class of 05) signed with Morehead and is now at Western.

**RockPride** · Nov 26, 06, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by strongopenyon

I feel certain that Coach Beatty and staff at Trinity thought their kicker (UK recruit Ryan Tydlacka) would kick the ball in the endzone as he has consistently done all year. He came up short on a couple......one in which Jeter ran back all the way.

I do not fault the coaching staff's decision on this one. Poor special teams coverage, nonetheless.

My exact feelings...Ryan bombs neerly 8 out of 10 deep in the end zone...I would've kept kicking them as well.

**rocktopper** · Nov 26, 06, 08:31 AM

It's simple! Coaching. The system is put in place at the freshman level and the kids practice that way through thier Senior year, 351 days a year (subtracting dead period). These young men buy into a winning system. We take average kids and make them good football players. We take good players and make them into great high school players. Well, you get the message...

**LSURock** · Nov 26, 06, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by rocktopper

It's simple! Coaching. The system is put in place at the freshman level and the kids practice that way through thier Senior year, 351 days a year (subtracting dead period). These young men buy into a winning system. We take average kids and make them good football players. We take good players and make them into great high school players. Well, you get the message...

Pretty good analysis. How many doubters did Nick Petrino have prior to last season? There probably wasn't on coach in Jefferson County that would have traded their QB for him. Coach Beatty saw something in Nick and helped (along with a healthy dose of Coach Brohm) bring it out. He took a kid that didn't measure up in the traditional sense and put him in charge of the offense and we all know the rest of the story. He wins a state title (MVP of the state game) with OC Sam Adams. Sam leaves, Coach Cov steps in and the Rocks don't miss a beat. I'm sure it won't stop rolling under Beatty's leadership after Nick moves on.

**RockPride** · Nov 26, 06, 09:50 AM

^ I agree Iam excited about Will next year as well. Let's finish this one off right...win that "Last Game"

**The Scribe** · Nov 26, 06, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by LSURock

All-State but not All-District.

Arnika Brown was Miss Basketball last year but didn't make the all-district team. It happens, although it's hard to explain

**All Tell** · Nov 26, 06, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Scribe

Arnika Brown was Miss Basketball last year but didn't make the all-district team. It happens, although it's hard to explain

No it's not really but in order not to lose my posting privileges I won't say anymore.

**CentreRocks** · Nov 26, 06, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by EastSideJunkie

Not going to comment on the thread but it got me thinking? OK, so Trinity has been to the finals six of seven years under Beatty. How many Division I kids have they produced in that time. I could only think of three

1. Brohm
2. Murray kid at Miami, Ohio
3. Dylan Thiry at Northwestern

Are there others? That is kind of a huge statement. So many titles and so few Division I players. And honestly, how many do they have on this year's team? Not many.

I think that's it, and I beleive the Murray kid was a walk on. A more pressing question would be to look at other 4-A schools and the number of D-I players they've put out in the same time frame.

Moreover, I do not believe this team will have any seniors get a D-I scholarship this year. I hope I am wrong.

Has any other 4-A school been to the state finals 6 out of 7 years?

**EastSideJunkie** · Nov 26, 06, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by tcjkbt

Will Rueff....DL at Miami of Ohio.
Will Heineman....OL at Eastern Kentucky.
Eric Senn....DB at Yale.
DeQuese May.....RB at Villanova(?)
Steve Orndorff (WR), Edddie Webb (PK) and Blaine Donnell (WR)....freshman walk-ons at U of L.

May be others.

EKU and Villanova are I-AA right? So only four to Division I schools and yet four titles and in another title game. That's amazing.

**CentreRocks** · Nov 26, 06, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by EastSideJunkie

EKU and Villanova are I-AA right? So only four to Division I schools and yet four titles and in another title game. That's amazing.

Maybe 5 titles...we shall see.

I don't believe Yale gives athletic scholarships, but I may be wrong.

**RockPride** · Nov 26, 06, 09:01 PM

^ I think they do.

**fballman007** · Nov 26, 06, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by CentreRocks

Moreover, I do not believe this team will have any seniors get a D-I scholarship this year. I hope I am wrong.

I think Trinity has some good prospects at the D-1 level this is including D-1AA and D-A. Will they get the attention or looks from colleges I do not know

**westsider** · Nov 26, 06, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by CentreRocks

I don't believe Yale gives athletic scholarships, but I may be wrong.

The Ivy League, as I understand it, does not award athletic scholarships, but generously awards aid to athletes based on need.

**EastSideJunkie** · Nov 26, 06, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by westsider

The Ivy League, as I understand it, does not award athletic scholarships, but generously awards aid to athletes based on need.

Correct Westsider. Not, that I knew from personal experience!

**westsider** · Nov 26, 06, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by EastSideJunkie

Correct Westsider. Not, that I knew from personal experience!

Nor do I ...

**CentreRocks** · Nov 27, 06, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by westsider

The Ivy League, as I understand it, does not award athletic scholarships, but generously awards aid to athletes based on need.

Thanks.

So Trinity now only has two (2) D-I scholarship football players in seven (7) years, yet has been to the State Finals six out of seven years. Truly remarkable.

It sure dispels the myth that Trinity wins with superior talent.

**94 Camel** · Nov 27, 06, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by CentreRocks

Thanks.

So Trinity now only has two (2) D-I scholarship football players in seven (7) years, yet has been to the State Finals six out of seven years. Truly remarkable.

It sure dispels the myth that Trinity wins with superior talent.

I think Trinity does more with as much, but I don't think that the Rocks can claim less. Less division one atheletes yes, less depth of excellent college prospects at every position, no. Lets not forget about a plethora of athletes at Trinity that don't play further at any level due to feeling burnt out. How many players on their team couldn't be at least competative D3 players?

**Mandeville** · Nov 27, 06, 11:46 AM

Trinity wins because of: great coaching, numbers( creates competition for playing time), solid athletes, knowledge of position responsibility and corresponding excecution, tradition and the will to win. A player does not have to be college mateiral to be an outstanding hs player.

Since Ive been down here in Louisiana, Ive seen two similar programs: John Curtis and Evangel- only difference is 180- 300 students in school and great athletes. Otherwise, all of the schools we see each year in the national limelight share many of these same qualitys.