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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Corps
    Congratulations to St. X on a big win and taking one more step to the pizza box. The Tigers are in playoff form reminiscent of last yearís run. After a tight 1st quarter the Tigers pulled away and the final score was not indicative of how St. X dominated the game. It was good to see so many St. X reserves get to play in the 2nd half.

    According to the newspaper, coach Nichols blamed the loss on snakebites and the kids not making plays. Apparently there are no mirrors in the Nichols household. Maybe one of these days coach Nichols will stand up and take responsibility for his teamís performance, good and bad. Maybe he will admit that he got beat by a better team. Maybe it will be at his next school?

    Good luck to St. X next week playing a very good John Hardin team.
    A) Don't believe everything you hear.

    B) Coaches coach, and players play. X had the big plays last night, and won the game. It doesn't have to be about Nichols, as much fun as other people have trying to ride him. Just be proud of YOUR kids, for cripes sakes. X is the clear cut number one rated team in the state on a 24 game win streak- maybe it isn't about Joe Nichols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02Ram54
    A) Don't believe everything you hear.

    B) Coaches coach, and players play. X had the big plays last night, and won the game. It doesn't have to be about Nichols, as much fun as other people have trying to ride him. Just be proud of YOUR kids, for cripes sakes. X is the clear cut number one rated team in the state on a 24 game win streak- maybe it isn't about Joe Nichols.
    A) I hope he stays.

    B) Then how come coach Nichols can't admit that? Would it be so difficult to say "Our kids played their heart out, they just got beat by a better team tonight." Speaking as a parent, I would hate to read coach Nichols comments in the paper after every loss blaming the loss on the kids, officials, tapes, whatever. These kids work their butts off every day in practice and during the games, they deserve better than that. I spoke to several Manual parents prior to the game at a local watering hole and they expressed the same fellings only stronger. They were actually relieved that the season was about to come to end. The Manual players, especially the Seniors, deserve better than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02Ram54
    A) Don't believe everything you hear.

    B) Coaches coach, and players play. X had the big plays last night, and won the game. It doesn't have to be about Nichols, as much fun as other people have trying to ride him. Just be proud of YOUR kids, for cripes sakes. X is the clear cut number one rated team in the state on a 24 game win streak- maybe it isn't about Joe Nichols.


    It doesn't surprise me that Mattingly had a great game. I stated in the thread after the first game that he was like Rocky, taking big hits and dishing them out. Looks like this was his Rocky II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Corps
    A) I hope he stays.

    B) Then how come coach Nichols can't admit that? Would it be so difficult to say "Our kids played their heart out, they just got beat by a better team tonight." Speaking as a parent, I would hate to read coach Nichols comments in the paper after every loss blaming the loss on the kids, officials, tapes, whatever. These kids work their butts off every day in practice and during the games, they deserve better than that. I spoke to several Manual parents prior to the game at a local watering hole and they expressed the same fellings only stronger. They were actually relieved that the season was about to come to end. The Manual players, especially the Seniors, deserve better than that.
    The first thing Nichols says in interview, after a loss, is "Their kids made plays, ours didn't." I don't see what you're looking for here, abasement? Nichols believes, as ANY coach believes, that his group of kids are world beaters. Joe is not going to say that there is a better team, when he doesn't think it. He knows that you can be great, give it your all, and still come up short. Sometimes the basket doesn't fall, sometimes you trip at the line, and sometimes the pass bounces off your hands.

    He loves those kids, and he's well aware of the slings and arrows he takes on sites like this. "I know they say I'm stupid, I can't win the big game." But he's a humble enough guy that he wants the wins for the kids, not to shut up people that question if he can tie his own shoes.

    As far as what you hear in watering holes, make sure they're parents, and not the guys that sit up underneath the pressbox. Those guys lack a serious sense of perspective.

    All the parents I know, know that Joe Nichols cares for those kids, and is doing everything he can for them. I've NEVER heard a single one ride out Joe Nichols. There are, however, dissatisfied parents at every program. I've heard more than a few from X, Trinity, and Male in my time.

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    Last night was frustrating. We finally put chinks in the St. X special teams armour (they are almost always perfect on special teams) and don't convert on any of the three times. St. X missed a FG and we put together an 11 play drive but turn the ball over on downs. Then the Tigers muff 2 punts and both times we throw an interception on the next play.

    St. X is a good team and they excel at playing smart & safe football and they wait for you to make a mistake and pounce.

    I admit Nichols needs to watch what he says in post game comments. He'll give 10 minutes of typical Coachspeak but then always can't stop himself and gives that 1 quote. Guess what makes it into the paper and on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtiger
    Thank you GURU!!!!!

    Great job by the Tigers-Redemption was achieved by the men in the trenches. Facing a team as physical as the Rams can be brutal and for the most part I think the Tigers came away from the game with just a couple of injuries-unfortunately they were to two key players and hopefully each will be good to go this Friday. Excellent job overall but special kudos have to go out to Chris Dornbrook, Michael Mattingly, Victor Anderson and the starting Tiger secondary on an outstanding game played. I had big fears about this Ram squad and this should be a great confidence boost for the X-men. Congrats to the very talented Senior Rams on a great 4 years of HS Football.
    How is Curley and Jefferies? I noticed both were injured. Hopefully they will both be ready for JH.

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    Last warning to stay on topic and not post rumors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Corps
    Congratulations to St. X on a big win and taking one more step to the pizza box. The Tigers are in playoff form reminiscent of last yearís run. After a tight 1st quarter the Tigers pulled away and the final score was not indicative of how St. X dominated the game. It was good to see so many St. X reserves get to play in the 2nd half.

    According to the newspaper, coach Nichols blamed the loss on snakebites and the kids not making plays. Apparently there are no mirrors in the Nichols household. Maybe one of these days coach Nichols will stand up and take responsibility for his teamís performance, good and bad. Maybe he will admit that he got beat by a better team. Maybe it will be at his next school?

    Good luck to St. X next week playing a very good John Hardin team.
    I am sure that only a portion of the post game interview was printed in that article. Fortunately for the "fodder seekers" that quote was the part that made it into print. Coaches in general "stand up and take responsibility" every time they step onto the practice field and/or game field. Rarely do the "back seat drivers" see everything that happens in the same manner. Read all you want into the quote but try to look at the quote for what it is worth, a remark made to a question by Jody Demling after a tough loss. Do you know what the question was? Neither do I, but I look at the response as literally meaning that Manual does not make the plays that should be made in crunch time. Nothing more, nothing less. A ball bounces off a receiver's hands, a punt muffed at the 1 yard line, a missed tackle that goes another fourty yards for TD a dropped ball on a fake punt a lapse on a fake punt etc, etc. Does this mean that the kids are to blame? NO! Are the coaches to blame? NO! Who is to blame? Obviously we all need to have someone to put the blame on. Maybe, just maybe, that is what "snakebit" means. Not that St. X did not win the game by beating Manual with plays that they made. After all when you get quality teams together it usually comes down to which team executes and which team doesn't. St. X made the plays that needed to be made when given the opportunities to make them.
    As far as hearing this and that at a local watering hole. I am sure you can hear of a cure for cancer, automobiles that are fueled by toilet paper, and a solution to peace in the middle east. I hope you don't consider all that to be legitimate as well.

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    Hope that Jefferies and Curley are okay. I had the pleasure of coaching Justin in youth league, a great kid.

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    Coaches, like all leaders, should be judged on their body of work. I'd say that while most respect the work Coach Nichols has done to return Manual to a lofty place in Jefferson County football. He has a reputation for making some pretty noteworthy comments after games (mostly after losses). He also has the reputation for not being able to win the big game. That may be fair or not, but at least he has led Manual to a place where Manual/X, Manual/Male, Manual/Trinity etc. are all big games. I really think Manual is in for a few lean years judging from what I saw at the freshman and JV games. The senior class they are losing has a number of really good players.

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    Manual does have some positions to fill. A lot of people saw a freshman team that played well at times but will need to mature a lot in many ways. The JV teams that played most of the games this season had some freshman but was sophomore dominated. The sophomore class will be the key. The sophomore class will be a lot like the senior bunch this year but they too need to mature a little. The positive side is that they are HARD WORKERS. Manual will have question marks early but some of those players got significant time in games the season. As every team loses players from year to year Manual will still compete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Corps
    Then how come coach Nichols can't admit that? Would it be so difficult to say "Our kids played their heart out, they just got beat by a better team tonight." Speaking as a parent, I would hate to read coach Nichols comments in the paper after every loss blaming the loss on the kids, officials, tapes, whatever.
    How funny is it that Nichols is getting chastised for his comments in same game that Glaser called Manual a cheapshot program on the radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RowdyRedRam
    How funny is it that Nichols is getting chastised for his comments in same game that Glaser called Manual a cheapshot program on the radio.


    I like Glaser a lot. I just took that for an unfortunate comment that he wouldn't have made if he weren't in the heat of the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RowdyRedRam
    How funny is it that Nichols is getting chastised for his comments in same game that Glaser called Manual a cheapshot program on the radio.
    Wow, I never heard that. What was the context?

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