Should Private Schools Have Their Own Class?

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    The 'problem' is usually defined as Trinity as they have dominated 6A titles in recent extended history.

    However, this 'problem' is not new. Louisville large Catholic schools have been leaders in the highest class since KHSAA was formed and before. Before Trinity there was Flaget.
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    There is no doubt an advantage for private schools, district boundaries kind of disappear and public schools have a hard time keeping up, it is what it is. If you wanted to have private school championships, you might be better off doing it regionally and have teams from several states competing. It would also make for great TV and exposure for the student athletes on any of those teams. It probably would boost their enrollment as well being on a bigger stage.

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    With only 14 private schools I donít see how it could work realistically, but my question is do the private schools have to follow the same rules as the public schools as far as having to live in the district to play, or having to set out if a student transfers? Can a student live out of district pay tuition and be eligible to play for a private school? I donít think a private school should have any advantage over a public in any way the playing field should be even for all the schools in the state weather theyíre public or private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    With only 14 private schools I don’t see how it could work realistically, but my question is do the private schools have to follow the same rules as the public schools as far as having to live in the district to play, or having to set out if a student transfers? Can a student live out of district pay tuition and be eligible to play for a private school? I don’t think a private school should have any advantage over a public in any way the playing field should be even for all the schools in the state weather they’re public or private.
    Any school in the state, public or private, can opt to take students from anywhere they choose and they would be eligible for sports. Any limitations are put in place by individual school systems not the KHSAA. Private schools are bound by exactly the same KHSAA rules as public schools are.

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    If you think ALL public school systems have HARD enrollment boundaries, you are absolutely clueless, misinformed or delusional.

    As a previous poster said, the public school systems THEMSELVES, and not the KHSAA or the KDE, choose and make their own boundaries.

    Elizabethtown's last National Player of the Year never moved from LaRue County.

    LaRue County's last D-1 boys basketball player lived in neighboring Hart County.

    Central Hardin's all-time leading rebounder in girls basketball lived in Meade County.

    And I wrote about a pair of brothers, living in the same house, who wrestled each other in the KHSAA postseason. Older brother attended North Hardin. Younger brother went to John Hardin.

    I've also written about sisters facing off in basketball and brothers facing off in hoops.

    In every one of the above cases, they were all PUBLIC schools.

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    Absolutley the should. Private schools in Ky have such a huge advantage.

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    The biggest advantage private schools have over their public counterparts is parental involvement. Anything regarding district boundaries are more a case of the public schools choosing to handicap themselves, which in turn certainly provides an advantage for the private schools, just not sure how that can be construed as the fault of the private schools...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gchs_uk9 View Post
    By the way, if you are curious about the discrepancies in enrollments, here are the number of boys per school from the 2016-17 school year:

    1. St. Xavier - 1,344
    2. Trinity - 1,155
    3. Covington Catholic - 595
    4. Lexington Catholic - 451
    5. DeSales - 336
    6. Christian Academy-Louisville - 334
    7. Lexington Christian - 239
    8. Owensboro Catholic - 197
    9. Covington Holy Cross - 189
    10. Newport Central Catholic - 177
    11. Louisville Holy Cross - 169
    12. Kentucky Country Day - 154
    13. Bethlehem - 149
    14. Bishop Brossart - 125
    General comment. It is not everyday you can randomly draw out 14 public schools and have the equal amount of success as Kentucky's 14 privates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    General comment. It is not everyday you can randomly draw out 14 public schools and have the equal amount of success as Kentucky's 14 privates.
    No, but if you randomly draw out 14 independent districts, you have a much better chance to match the success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colonel-fan View Post
    No, but if you randomly draw out 14 independent districts, you have a much better chance to match the success.
    Probably, but those sure are some power players on the private list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    General comment. It is not everyday you can randomly draw out 14 public schools and have the equal amount of success as Kentucky's 14 privates.
    You can if you draw 10 schools from 1A and 2A - where 10 of the 14 schools in the list reside class-wise.

    If privates/parochial schools had such great advantages then the results in 1A/2A is where there should be more dominance. But there is not.

    LexCath is the only 3A school in the list. Definitely not where they were 10 years ago. CovCath is the only 5A. They had a great year this year but that came after years and years of hard times.

    So the 'problem' people keep trying to solve is what I call the 'Green Monster' problem in Louisville with X and more specifically with T. But that 'problem' has been there over 60 years. Its been X and T since the early 70s but it was X and F(laget) before that. Flaget was ever bit as dominant, and even more so in most years, as T in the 40s and 50s and 60s before it declined and closed causing the Flaget heritage people to adopt Trinity.

    Remove X and T, and if you want even CovCath based on this year, and would anyone argue there is a 'problem' or a reason for separation? At 3A and below there is no contestable issue to force radical change in any way. And that is where 11 of the 14 schools are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugatti View Post
    Probably, but those sure are some power players on the private list.
    Some power players on the independent list as well:

    Ashland Independent School District, Ashland
    Beechwood Independent School District (Fort Mitchell)
    Bowling Green Independent Schools
    Corbin Independent School District
    Danville Independent Schools
    Fort Thomas Independent Schools
    Glasgow Independent Schools
    Hazard Independent Schools
    Mayfield Independent Schools
    Pikeville Independent Schools
    Raceland-Worthington Independent Schools
    Somerset Independent Schools

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluegrasscard View Post
    You can if you draw 10 schools from 1A and 2A - where 10 of the 14 schools in the list reside class-wise.

    If privates/parochial schools had such great advantages then the results in 1A/2A is where there should be more dominance. But there is not.

    LexCath is the only 3A school in the list. Definitely not where they were 10 years ago. CovCath is the only 5A. They had a great year this year but that came after years and years of hard times.

    So the 'problem' people keep trying to solve is what I call the 'Green Monster' problem in Louisville with X and more specifically with T. But that 'problem' has been there over 60 years. Its been X and T since the early 70s but it was X and F(laget) before that. Flaget was ever bit as dominant, and even more so in most years, as T in the 40s and 50s and 60s before it declined and closed causing the Flaget heritage people to adopt Trinity.

    Remove X and T, and if you want even CovCath based on this year, and would anyone argue there is a 'problem' or a reason for separation? At 3A and below there is no contestable issue to force radical change in any way. And that is where 11 of the 14 schools are.
    Take T and X out of the equation and are we even having this discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 74devil View Post
    Take T and X out of the equation and are we even having this discussion?
    If we as a state stop building new schools & start expanding existing schools, are we even having this discussion? cuts both ways...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 74devil View Post
    Take T and X out of the equation and are we even having this discussion?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bosox1 View Post
    If we as a state stop building new schools & start expanding existing schools, are we even having this discussion? cuts both ways...
    I think what @74devil is saying is that it isn't really a "private school" problem in the eyes of many, but rather a "Trinity" problem. If Trinity hadn't completely dominated AAAA and now 6A most wouldn't care about whether public and private schools played against one another.

    Or to put it another way - nobody is wringing their hands over Country Day, Brossart or Bethlehem.

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