Ranking The Top 10 Public Schools Since 2000

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk#1fan View Post
    X didn't crush them in 09. They barely beat them.
    The 2009 St. X - SK game was 48-34. I would agree that isn't crushing (Although Peprock's point was about 2008 not 2009), but how would you describe that as 'barely beat them'? That's a solid two touchdowns above SK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychicscubadiver View Post
    The 2009 St. X - SK game was 48-34. I would agree that isn't crushing (Although Peprock's point was about 2008 not 2009), but how would you describe that as 'barely beat them'? That's a solid two touchdowns above SK.
    You aren't wearing the SK goggles. Very similar to beer and whiskey goggles.

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    If @uk#1fan wants to talk history lets talk more recently like 2011 when SK was 2-9 on the season with wins over "powerhouses" Casey County and Holmes. They also had a "close" season ending loss at Trinity 72-0. Simon Kenton does not belong in any conversation about the elites of Kentucky football, PERIOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLCat View Post
    6 of the Top 15 Public Programs of the Past 15 years reside in the new look 3A, and 8 of the Top 19.... that surprised me.

    Most private schools are either very small or very large which leaves the middle sized classes much more open for public school success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rez View Post
    Most private schools are either very small or very large which leaves the middle sized classes much more open for public school success.
    Just comparing the two lists though 6A is really the only place I think you see the private truly reign with an iron fist. Trinity and X are certainly next level programs.

    NewCath is a superb program, and DeSales is becoming one... but those are really the only two "smaller" privates winning Championships consistently.. and both of those have taken on the chin to several of the public schools you see listed here (Beechwood, Danville, Mayfield, etc)

    By and large one of the biggest revelations to me from doing this is actually that Kentucky is a very stout state in terms of Public School prowess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bac2369 View Post
    Hazard should be in the top 10. Scott County is a worthy of it but I believe hazard has a little better resume.6A football is tough now.
    This is a tough one.

    Literall of all the teams I have included...no two teams share more of a mutual resume as Scott County and Hazard. For all intents of purposes they literally have truly dead even resumes

    The exact same number of wins.
    The exact same number of Finals.
    The exact same number of Titles.

    The lone difference is Scott County has one more Regional Title.

    Scott County has also seemingly +3 in win/loss differential. SC has 45 losses and Hazard 48.

    I would even say that for the "pound for pound" aspect they have even played the exact same playoff path. Both have been on the "easier" side of their respective class' bracket, and both have had to meet dominant programs in the Finals.

    I can make an argument for their resume being a tie..but I can't concede Hazard's resume as stronger.

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    I don't see any way that Hazard would have the better resume. One less regional title with 3 more losses puts them right where they should be, a notch behind Scott Co on the list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    If @uk#1fan wants to talk history lets talk more recently like 2011 when SK was 2-9 on the season with wins over "powerhouses" Casey County and Holmes. They also had a "close" season ending loss at Trinity 72-0. Simon Kenton does not belong in any conversation about the elites of Kentucky football, PERIOD.
    Your talking about the team who had a bunch of Sophomore starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uk#1fan View Post
    Your talking about the team who had a bunch of Sophomore starters.
    What's your point. You want SK considered an elite because they made the championship game (and got crushed) in 2008. The 2011 season is also a part of SK's body of work and proof that they don't belong in a discussion of elite programs.

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    Since John Hardin was formed in 2001 they have won 123 games. They have won 6 regional titles and went to the state finals in 2009. Why would they not be considered on this list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Since John Hardin was formed in 2001 they have won 123 games. They have won 6 regional titles and went to the state finals in 2009. Why would they not be considered on this list.
    I think they are considered but not making the cut to the top 10.

    Who would they replace?

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    Scott County is thriving because of businesses like Toyota and there enrollment has grew. So I would say there success comes from the area growing in population. But if they got the better resume then they should be above Hazard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Since John Hardin was formed in 2001 they have won 123 games. They have won 6 regional titles and went to the state finals in 2009. Why would they not be considered on this list.
    They were considered..just deemed lacking


    Because as good as their record is it doesn't come close to the resume of the Top 10 teams.

    #10 is Scott County 146 wins, 6 Regional Titles, 3 State Finals, 1 State Title

    That's 23 more wins, 2 more State Finals, and One More State Championship

    As mentioned on the Overall Ranking Thread... JH has a quality program..but until they bring home the title and reach the Finals more there are just simply other better programs.

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    Former McCracken Co. school Lone Oak went to two finals, one in 2007 and a 2nd in 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLCat View Post
    Regional Titles:
    1. Mayfield- 13

    2. Highlands- 12

    3. Belfry- 11

    4. Beechwood- 10

    t5. Boyle- 8
    Central- 8

    t7. Danville- 7
    Bowling Green- 7

    t9. Male- 6
    Scott County- 6
    Somerset- 6

    t12. Hazard- 5
    Russell- 5
    Tilghman- 5
    Corbin- 5

    t16. Bell Co- 4
    Rockcastle Co- 4

    t18. Breathitt Co- 3
    Pulaski Co- 3
    I think Hazard has 6.. From 2007-2012 they either went to the finals or the state semis..

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