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    Quote Originally Posted by CincySportsFan View Post
    The whole athletic complex was screwed up from the beginning when they moved out there. Heck even the gym seating had to be redone after the first year when they realized the sight-lines were horrible up stairs. The fancy seat backs had to be taken out of the lower level just to be able to put more people downstairs. All because somebody thought it'd be "cool" to have 10' ceilings in the locker room?

    And the "press box" was anything but that. My 8'x10' lawn shed has just about as much square footage (honestly, maybe more) than what that thing was they used to have. There was room for the clock operator, the PA announcer and a spotter, and that was about it. It was a waste of concrete blocks.
    Amen. The baseball field is dog crap, the upper level of the gym is completely useless for watching games, no second gym, football locker room is small and cramped, field House is small. When it rains that whole area around the football practice field, baseball field, locker room is like a swamp. The athletic facilities are a joke. The basketball locker rooms are pretty nice. Boys is nicer than the girls because of the hardwood floor. But it’s not utilized correctly or at least it wasn’t the last time I was there. The showers were being used as a storage area. They wasted so much money on the athletic complexes. The last time I was on the track there were giant potholes in it. Surely they have those fixed by now but it went unfixed for a while. It’s a shame really. The football field has a ton of potential to be a really nice complex. The new press box is nice but it drives me nuts that it’s not centered on the 50. A turf field would have been a much better investment than the new press box and I feel that should have been done first. Don’t even get me started on the fact that the baseball field doesn’t have lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deaconjim View Post
    In my opinion the basketball teams are not as competitive as they were in the 80`s 90`s and early 2000`s. Granted the Braves were never a power house but even back in the late 60`s and early 70`s they were competitive in the 8`th region.
    I still contest that Grant should have won the region in 2003, but Tyler Jones picked a bad time to play one of the worst games of his career. He couldn’t make anything. That was the best GC team that I am able to remember but I am quite a bit younger than you I’m guessing.

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    They had a great shot at winning it in 03. Their best team was the 79 team for sure. If they hadn`t drawn the 11th region in the opener , I think they could have won a couple games. In the late 60`s they had a couple shots to go to state but kept running in to Shelby Co. who always seemed to have their no. But for me the worst was I believe around 1970 when they should have made a run in the 8th but lost their opening game in the district to the Georgetown Buffaloes with Andy Williams and Carl Lewis.

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    When a thread about a football HC vacancy reaches 5 pages and 90% of the posts are about basketball that explains a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrel View Post
    When a thread about a football HC vacancy reaches 5 pages and 90% of the posts are about basketball that explains a lot.
    I guess hind sight is 20/20 hu'h.

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    Sounds like athletics are not a priority. Grant county is a big school without good facilities (no facilities in some ways) no resources, low/no budget, lack of support from admin. I can’t believe they don’t have two gyms!! I wonder what that gym schedule looks like.

    Owen and Grant county are very comparable in talent/athlete population for all sports. Even though grant is much bigger, they flat out don’t get 5A talent in any sport.

    Much of why Grant needs to play more non-district teams comparable to Owen in football...stay non-district until they can compete

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    Just a thought. I think that the fact that so many of you believe you have to "win some" before you change the culture says more about the problems at Grant than anything else that's been said on here. Lowering the bar doesn't make the process faster or better, just easier. JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog77 View Post
    Just a thought. I think that the fact that so many of you believe you have to "win some" before you change the culture says more about the problems at Grant than anything else that's been said on here. Lowering the bar doesn't make the process faster or better, just easier. JMHO.
    What’s the alternative? Just continue to get their brains beat in by their district?

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    King, I didn't make the schedule. When I was there, we were in the District and played Cov. Cath, Highlands, and Dixie.
    Siple

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingLow View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oldgrappler View Post
    Fire the guy making the schedule. Surely, you can find some teams closer to your talent level to play and possibly beat.
    That was Kevin Siple
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    King, I didn't make the schedule. When I was there, we were in the District and played Cov. Cath, Highlands, and Dixie.
    Siple
    Thanks for clarifying that, Coach Siple.

    And he's right, the only winless season that Grant County has had in at least the last 15 years or so was this past season - 2017 - after Coach Siple was gone, and the school had elected to remove themselves from KHSAA district competition in order to remove themselves from having to play Highlands, Dixie Heights, and Covington Catholic, as they were assigned to do by the KHSAA's 2015-2018 football alignment. @KingLow, you were misinformed if you were told that the 2017 Grant County football schedule was Siple's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    What’s the alternative? Just continue to get their brains beat in by their district?
    It's not an either/or answer. There are multiple issues there that scheduling can't fix. Sure, playing some softer games might help a little, but it doesn't answer the questions of motivation and effort, it just makes it easier to be less motivated or give less effort. Single agenda fixes don't work. Been there, got those t-shirts, made those errors myself. Again, its just MHO but I believe challenges are more important to the learning process for student/athletes than wins. Getting hammered is sometimes painful, I get that (I've gotten it often), but to me, its part of upping your game. Again, just an opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog77 View Post
    It's not an either/or answer. There are multiple issues there that scheduling can't fix. Sure, playing some softer games might help a little, but it doesn't answer the questions of motivation and effort, it just makes it easier to be less motivated or give less effort. Single agenda fixes don't work. Been there, got those t-shirts, made those errors myself. Again, its just MHO but I believe challenges are more important to the learning process for student/athletes than wins. Getting hammered is sometimes painful, I get that (I've gotten it often), but to me, its part of upping your game. Again, just an opinion.
    How can you get any better without support from the administration and the community? I don’t see how that support can be earned by being in competitive year in and year out against every team in your district. Yes it sucks that GC can’t compete but there just isn’t the talent level at the school nor do they have even enough kids playing sports period to support a 5A football program. They are a 5A school with the same number as kids playing sports as a 1A school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    How can you get any better without support from the administration and the community? I don’t see how that support can be earned by being in competitive year in and year out against every team in your district. Yes it sucks that GC can’t compete but there just isn’t the talent level at the school nor do they have even enough kids playing sports period to support a 5A football program. They are a 5A school with the same number as kids playing sports as a 1A school.
    The new coach-- if he wanted to build a program-- would have to start with building community support.

    Did Boyle County care about football before Chuck Smith?

    Did Belfry or Johnson Central or CAL? A lot of those places got the right guy, who came in and took over a program and changed the culture by getting community support.

    Sounds easy on a message board. Best of luck to whoever tries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantNKY View Post
    How can you get any better without support from the administration and the community? I donít see how that support can be earned by being in competitive year in and year out against every team in your district. Yes it sucks that GC canít compete but there just isnít the talent level at the school nor do they have even enough kids playing sports period to support a 5A football program. They are a 5A school with the same number as kids playing sports as a 1A school.
    Just a side note - You just made the exact argument I've made for years about classification for a multitude of other sports, but that is a discussion for another time.

    But I'm certain you know that those situations are playing out at schools all over the state. It's not unique to GC unfortunately. Also, there are no solid, clear answers. To me, Administrative support is more perception than anything, and the coach (whoever that may come to be) will need to help create that perception of support. Also, administrators without athletics backgrounds sometimes don't know what support means or looks like. Don't know that in this case, just throwing that out there. Also, having a coaching staff that is primarily "in the building" can, and often does, make a difference in turning kids out for the program. I feel for you and for the GC fans and I understand where you are and from where you are coming. It won't be easy. I'm just saying lowering the bar in and of itself, really doesn't solve the problem. I wish you all the luck in the world. I have lots of friends at GC and know tons of extremely good people in the GC system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pi View Post
    The new coach-- if he wanted to build a program-- would have to start with building community support.

    Did Boyle County care about football before Chuck Smith?

    Did Belfry or Johnson Central or CAL? A lot of those places got the right guy, who came in and took over a program and changed the culture by getting community support.

    Sounds easy on a message board. Best of luck to whoever tries.
    Community support comes from winning and making progress. I think Grant County could support a football program, but it starts with winning. IMO getting blown out by your 3 district opponents every year is counter productive.

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