Is the KHSAA thinking about changing the first two rounds of the football playoffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKYknowitall View Post
    The 4 class system was just fine.
    Yep. But hey, at least those 0-10 teams get an opportunity to get their brains beat in one more time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Yep. But hey, at least those 0-10 teams get an opportunity to get their brains beat in one more time!
    Woo-hoo! Its actually sad those teams get to go to the playoffs. But, we have to make sure little Johnny and little Billy don't feel left out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PepRock01 View Post
    Or when you had T, X ,H and M all in the same district.
    That is a different kettle of fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NKYknowitall View Post
    Woo-hoo! Its actually sad those teams get to go to the playoffs. But, we have to make sure little Johnny and little Billy don't feel left out!
    http://khsaa.org/football/footballsu...ndbyschool.pdf

    The above link is a survey conducted by the KHSAA prior to the most recent alignment. Each school was given one vote. Nine schools did not vote.

    -118 out of 210 schools voted in favor of four teams per district making the playoffs (56%)
    -39 schools voted for three teams per district making the playoffs (19%)
    -53 schools voted for a return to only two teams per district making the playoffs (25%)

    So per this data, more than half of the schools wanted four teams per district making the playoffs. There are people on this board who long for the good ol' days when only two per district made the playoffs. In truth, that only existed from 1987-1990, and per the survey, only one quarter of the schools want to return.

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    4 Classes didn't prevent this. You had quite a few 4 team districts with 8 team cross districts from what I remember. 0-10 could still play while the cross district could have a 6-4 team not get in. 4 classes didn't fix this issue then, so I would say it's not a classification problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gchs_uk9 View Post
    http://khsaa.org/football/footballsu...ndbyschool.pdf

    The above link is a survey conducted by the KHSAA prior to the most recent alignment. Each school was given one vote. Nine schools did not vote.

    -118 out of 210 schools voted in favor of four teams per district making the playoffs (56%)
    -39 schools voted for three teams per district making the playoffs (19%)
    -53 schools voted for a return to only two teams per district making the playoffs (25%)

    So per this data, more than half of the schools wanted four teams per district making the playoffs. There are people on this board who long for the good ol' days when only two per district made the playoffs. In truth, that only existed from 1987-1990, and per the survey, only one quarter of the schools want to return.
    And before that only 1 per district made it correct? I don't understand the point your making other then half the schools prefer 4 per district. Just because that's the case doesn't mean fans have to like it or even forbid prefer something else.

    Gotta get those participation awards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    And before that only 1 per district made it correct? I don't understand the point your making other then half the schools prefer 4 per district. Just because that's the case doesn't mean fans have to like it or even forbid prefer something else.

    Gotta get those participation awards.
    The point is it was voted on by the schools. They make up the organization and four teams is what they voted for. "Participation awards" is just a fan complaint, but fans aren't the organization. And if fans don't like the first round they won't go (which has happened).

    It does appear to me, however, that the loudest four-team complaints come from fans of traditional state powers who seem to just not like going through the formality of a first round blowout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gchs_uk9 View Post
    The point is it was voted on by the schools. They make up the organization and four teams is what they voted for. "Participation awards" is just a fan complaint, but fans aren't the organization. And if fans don't like the first round they won't go (which has happened).

    It does appear to me, however, that the loudest four-team complaints come from fans of traditional state powers who seem to just not like going through the formality of a first round blowout.
    What does a good team get out of beating a poor team senseless and what does a poor team get out of having it done to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    What does a good team get out of beating a poor team senseless and what does a poor team get out of having it done to them?
    I agree. I'm on record as saying I wish it were three teams per district in the playoffs, with the district winner getting a bye. All I've meant on any of this was that the majority of school representatives voted for four teams every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gchs_uk9 View Post
    I agree. I'm on record as saying I wish it were three teams per district in the playoffs, with the district winner getting a bye. All I've meant on any of this was that the majority of school representatives voted for four teams every time.
    So are you saying if you have a complaint it is with the schools not the KHSAA?

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    On the plus side of 4 teams making it...
    * #1 seeds get a game vs. a #4 seed which basically allows the equivalent of a bye week but you DO get to play. I personally HATE having to play a game after an open date.

    ...the down side:
    * Won the district two years back and played an opponent in 1st round we eventually beat by a lot. Plan was to play the starters for about a quarter and a half to keep them sharp. Unfortunately, lost one of our best RB's to injury on 2nd play of the game.

    I'm for 3 teams making the playoffs b/c I think the 4 vs. 1 games get out of hand and it seems right to reward district winner with an off-week late in the season to heal up (similar to what NFL does). However, not sure all coaches of district winners would want two weeks off before a playoff game.

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    Thanks for your perspective @CoachJ. I can see the benefit of that bye week, but also can see a potential for loss of revenue of giving up a home game. On the other hand, by the time all expenses are paid, sometimes those first round games generate very little revenue for the two schools.

    If given this choice, what do you think most coaches would want IF you are a #1 seed. What about administrators?

    A. A bye week to heal up, rest up, and physically scout your opponent for the 2nd round game. or
    B. A home game, probably a blow out, but a chance to keep routine and stay sharp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    And before that only 1 per district made it correct? I don't understand the point your making other then half the schools prefer 4 per district. Just because that's the case doesn't mean fans have to like it or even forbid prefer something else.

    Gotta get those participation awards.
    I think what he is saying is that we the fans don't have to like it but learn to deal with it. The schools voted on what THEY wanted, not what fans want. I love these sights but I hate the never ending posts about changing the playoff structure. It is not changing for at least 3 years and I don't think it will have a chance then either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pick-six View Post
    I think what he is saying is that we the fans don't have to like it but learn to deal with it. The schools voted on what THEY wanted, not what fans want. I love these sights but I hate the never ending posts about changing the playoff structure. It is not changing for at least 3 years and I don't think it will have a chance then either.
    It may do nothing but are we as fans not allowed to discuss what we agree and disagree with. So what if the schools voted for it, I still don't like it.

    And I don't care what anyone else may have said this all goes back to the whole "participation trophy" mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All Tell View Post
    It may do nothing but are we as fans not allowed to discuss what we agree and disagree with. So what if the schools voted for it, I still don't like it.

    And I don't care what anyone else may have said this all goes back to the whole "participation trophy" mentality.
    To each his own. I will take every week of high school football I can get! If it hurts peoples feelings when 1 seeds play 4 seeds, don't go watch.

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