If the goal of your high school team isn't to win a championship, what is the goal?

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    What should schools with no realistic chance at winning a title do? Drop the program?
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    Let's keep in mind here that we are talking about high school kids, not the NFL. Eighty percent of the schools have no or little hope of winning a championship in a given year. The kids are smart enough to know this. It is the parents and other adult fans that come up with outragous expectations for their kids that do good to find their shoes when they leave the house in the morning to live up to.

    For a team that was winless in the previous year a couple of wins might be a reachable goal. A winning season would be a goal. To win two playoff games is a fantastic acomplishment for most teams.

    Is every team and every kid that did not win a champioship last year a failure?

    Football, more than any other sport in my opinion is about being a team. Teams win and teams lose but they do it together. So, No it is not the goal of every team to win championships, but its nice when they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theguru View Post
    Teams like that don't need playoffs. Just a regular season and maybe a bowl game like college football.
    That is why I said their should be an independent classification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumper_Dad View Post
    What should schools with no realistic chance at winning a title do? Drop the program?
    Focus on smaller goals. Maybe statistical goals. Winning season, make the playoffs, win your district, etc...

    You have to start with something realistic, and winning state is not realistic for 90% of teams most years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Focus on smaller goals. Maybe statistical goals. Winning season, make the playoffs, win your district, etc...

    You have to start with something realistic, and winning state is not realistic for 90% of teams most years.
    I agree...some seem to think that's not enough though.

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    If you are a 6A team not Male, Trinity or ST X, a realistic goal is to win a region championship. Kinda sad to know in July how far you can go in November, but that is reality in 6A Kentucky football

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardin County Preps View Post
    If you are a 6A team not Male, Trinity or ST X, a realistic goal is to win a region championship. Kinda sad to know in July how far you can go in November, but that is reality in 6A Kentucky football
    I know right, imagine a school moving up into 6A, that's four kinds of crazy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Focus on smaller goals. Maybe statistical goals. Winning season, make the playoffs, win your district, etc...

    You have to start with something realistic, and winning state is not realistic for 90% of teams most years.
    This.

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    Remember when it was supossed to be about having fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDeuce View Post
    Focus on smaller goals. Maybe statistical goals. Winning season, make the playoffs, win your district, etc...

    You have to start with something realistic, and winning state is not realistic for 90% of teams most years.
    I agree you do all those things and then when you achieve those things, like winning a district, then the goal automatically shifts to a state championship.

    Or put another way, everything you are saying is just a means to the ultimate goal of winning a state championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardin County Preps View Post
    If you are a 6A team not Male, Trinity or ST X, a realistic goal is to win a region championship. Kinda sad to know in July how far you can go in November, but that is reality in 6A Kentucky football
    Thatís not just in 6A, but across the board in most all classes. Iíd throw Scott County into that mix. Itís no longer the big 3, but the big 4 one could argue. 6A gets the most attention, but every class has these guys. There is more disparity across other classes than 6A or just as much. If you arenít paired up in a region with those guys then you have to like your odds of getting to a region final and even semifinal. I guess to a point that might get old also, but it beats countless others year in year out knowing their fate is coming in the first or at best 2nd round.

    Forget July, but January. Most of the programs know their end of the year(s) fate give or take a week long, long in advance more years than not.

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    Do some of you really think the players play for just life lessons? Every kid should be playing for a championship. What the adults in charge think is another story. I don't know any Mayfield player who wasn't playing for championship.

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    All teams set goals. Some are more lofty than others depending upon your capabilities.

    In our present stage of development it is our goal to win the district and host a playoff game, and then win a playoff game once we get there. Of course, if that happens, you then take them one at a time and see where it takes you.

    I doubt that Raceland had actual aspirations of playing in the State Championship game this season. It might have been written on a chalk board somewhere, BUT realistically I doubt that they felt destined to do that.

    They followed the plan described above and took them one at a time and wound up in Lexington.

    I'd rather have a team that feels they have over-achieved by exceeding expectations than one that feels like an underachiever due to setting the bar too high.

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    The feeling I am getting from this thread is that we teach kids to set their goals low so they can never be disappointed. We wonder why these generations are "soft".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cat View Post
    If a team's goal is to win a championship, good for them, but for most teams that is simply unrealistic. At some point I was taught that goals need to be attainable. For a lot of schools a football state championship simply isn't possible, unless the stars were to completely line up in their favor.

    There are a variety of reasons for athletes to play a sport other than to win a championship. Sure all athletes would like to be champions but there are quite a few other benefits that come from playing a sport.

    Consider college basketball. Currently there are 351 teams competing in D1. Over the last 30 years only 16 schools have won a title. Extend it a bit further and only 20 teams in the last 50 years. It would be silly for 90% of the schools participating to seriously have a goal of winning a championship.
    Look at Boyle County prior to Chuck Smith being hired in 1992. This argument really rubs me wrong, is it easy to win? No, but with good hiring of coaches, proper structure and development any team can be successful. Boyle County didn't just have D1 and NFL players move into the county, and I would argue that if you looked at other teams with 8 state championships, I would bet Boyle County has far less D1 players over that span, than other teams who have won championships.

    Winning takes guts, and heart, and coaching, player development, administration buy in, community support. All of that can be attained with the right coach, with the right vision and work ethic.

    If a teams goal is not to win a championship they do not need a program, and we are setting these kids up for failure and unrealistic expectations in life. Always set your goals high, and if you don't attain them, look back reflect and find a new strategy. Selling kids that being mediocre is ok, will just make them mediocre adults.

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