Coaching Shake-up at Highlands

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongSide View Post
    This may very well be the case and it is something I have thought myself. If it is the case, I think that falls on coaching. You have to get your kids to buy in to what your selling or change your sales pitch. OR better yet keep that same sales pitch that has worked so well in the past.[/QUOTE]

    Maybe that's the problem. If true, why in the world would you change something so great? The one image that keeping sticking out to me is when HHS was playing St X of Ohio and they had that Huge O-lineman with the name James. He was huge. He was going against a kid that was half his size. The kid half his size was whooping his Butt. Lets get back to kids wanting it like that.
    I loved that game, by far my favorite HHS game ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePride92 View Post
    How can it fall on coaching if kids growing up in Ft. Thomas don’t want to play football for Highlands the way they used to? In JOAT’s post he said in today’s society kids aren’t as dedicated as they used to be to playing football and that seems to be the case everywhere. If Highlands football means more to dads than sons then that doesn’t fall on coaching.
    Yeah I don't know a coach can have some influence on how he reaches kids and gets them excited about playing but I guess like you said in the end it comes down to the kids "wanting" to be a part of something special. And if they don't it's a shame imo. But hey they can look back on their high school career some day and reminisce on the best day they had playing that video game. Oh wait no remembers that kind of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongSide View Post
    This may very well be the case and it is something I have thought myself. If it is the case, I think that falls on coaching. You have to get your kids to buy in to what your selling or change your sales pitch. OR better yet keep that same sales pitch that has worked so well in the past.
    Look bottom line when a horse trainer takes his horses to run in the KY Derby they are are fast strong horses right. You would t send a Clydesdale right? Well when you look back like I said at the FTJRFL league 4-5 years ago there wasn’t many horses. Do you really not think Dale saw this as well. I had his fingers on the pulse as well. When people say what happened to HHS it’s easy the had a down two years. It happens. The FTJRFL league numbers are increasing again older teams are playing more competition out side of the league everything that needs to happen to MHFGA

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    ...so anyway, does anyone know if John Rodenberg is actually coaching in Ft. Thomas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    ...so anyway, does anyone know if John Rodenberg is actually coaching in Ft. Thomas?
    I say silly talk...but who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    ...so anyway, does anyone know if John Rodenberg is actually coaching in Ft. Thomas?
    Lol that’s funny. To do what video the games

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    Quote Originally Posted by futurecoach View Post
    Didn't you just support what Duece is saying about the talent not being what it use to? By saying about all Americans and mr. Football's who played for Highlands. That right there is a big difference they don't have elite talent anymore. Good talent but not elite. Just look at Covcath a great team with a few D1 talent players. Take those D1 talent players off the team and they are not a dominant team. Just a very good team who would be more capable of mistakes without that elite talent.

    Highlands fans are seeing what other teams dealt with. Highlands has good players just not elite players currently. Which good players make more mistakes than elite players and can't overcome mistakes like elite players.

    With all that said I do think highlands will be much better these next few years Because their current to be juniors and sophomores do have very good talent.
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    Wow this thread has the look of a daytime soap opera. I like BW and would be in his camp. I like JB and man was I right on that hire and the state of baseball program. I happen to have great friends that endorse Siple back from his Indian Hills days. I too believe there was a drop in talent and stated it to Old Bird at length. Sutkamp leaving the program and a couple basketball only(s) did not help that class. Also at that time a frosh coach ran the wrong boys off and contributed to the decision. I do also agree that some play calling and decisions made by OC and previous DC were concerning. Hopefully the program learns and moves forward.

    Being a transplant not having any rings and a total of 4 varsity wins in 4 years, I married into the tradition. I was heavily involved in the FTJFL and had my youngest move to the Red Devils. Did I take heat Yes, was it the right decision for him yes. He made friends and many were bluebirds too. It is ironic that he was injured and missed the entire season. The boys welcomed him in as family. He is on the mend and is working hard to do his part in the program moving forward. Like alphabet soup I see both sides and we agree; which in the past we would differ in opinion. Hoping for success moving forward.

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    He was right, BGP is more interesting when there is a juicy Highlands thread in the football forum.

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    This is a great topic. There is a lot more to it than just choosing an asst. coach and putting him in a role. Head coaches have to look at each coach’s skill set and match it with what is best for the team he is paid to lead. Coaches are like players. We all, players and coaches, have certain roles that we WANT to fill. For example, a player who wants to play LB, might be more needed on his team at Off.Guard. It doesn’t mean he is a bad LB, it just means that the coach believes that the TEAM is better if he plays guard. Football is the ultimate team sport. 11 guys have to individually do their specific job on each play in order to have a successful play. It’s no different with coaches. If the the asst. coach WANTS to be the LBer coach, the HC might believe that the TEAM is better if that coach works with offensive lineman. It’s not about the player’s feelings, or the asst. coaches feelings. It’s about what the HC thinks is best for the team. That being said, and what I believe is the most important part of this is that it’s critical that the HC communicates with each player and coach very honestly and directly about what their role is. That’s Leadership 101. The great head coaches can talk to a player who rushed for 1000 yards the year before as a FB, and convince that player that the team needs him to move to offensive line to be successful. All players and coaches just want to be respected enough to be communicated with openly and honestly. The great leaders make everyone feel great about the role the team needs them to fill. I have no problem with BW thinking that it’s best for the team for a coach to be the JV offensive coordinator or it’s best that a coach be the cameraman. I just think the coach will give everything he has if he is communicated with directly and honestly. Putting all the pieces together and making those pieces all feel motivated to contribute in their assigned role is the trick to being a great leader. You have to make the best person/coach on the team feel needed, as well as the worst player/coach on the team. The Head Coaches that don’t communicate with players and coaches about their role will always have a hard time. Hypothetically, of course, if the Head coach thinks it’s best for the team for me to walk around and be positive and assist other coaches, I would do it to the best of my ability. I just need to be communicated with so I know specifically that what he needs me to do. The worst situation is for a player or coach to not know what their role is.
    Just my observations over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABC2 View Post
    Lol that’s funny. To do what video the games
    I'm just asking a question. Someone said "Heard John Rodenberg may be coming on board." Then I read a few more inconclusive mentions about him. Since you and a few other folks seem to have an awful lot of 'answers' about Highlands, I figured I'd ask if anyone knew whether or not he was actually there.

    I agree with the sentiment that he'd definitely be taking a few big steps backwards in his career were he to go from head coach at Moeller to assistant coach at Highlands, and I'd assume it's not true, but everyone knows what happens when you assume things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    I'm just asking a question. Someone said "Heard John Rodenberg may be coming on board." Then I read a few more inconclusive mentions about him. Since you and a few other folks seem to have an awful lot of 'answers' about Highlands, I figured I'd ask if anyone knew whether or not he was actually there.

    I agree with the sentiment that he'd definitely be taking a few big steps backwards in his career were he to go from head coach at Moeller to assistant coach at Highlands, and I'd assume it's not true, but everyone knows what happens when you assume things.
    Well the Rodenburg name has been brought up more and more within the last month or two.

    Apparently the AD is very good friends with JR and after he resigned at Moeller the AD actually invited JR to travel to the last Highlands playoff game with him.

    Some administrators caught wind of the invitation and the Superintendent put a halt to it.

    Not sure what the ADs motive was to do this but can only speculate that since they are buddies perhaps it was to share a bucket of popcorn...Idk

    That is the last I heard of the name Rodenburg until recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by goford View Post
    This is a great topic. There is a lot more to it than just choosing an asst. coach and putting him in a role. Head coaches have to look at each coach’s skill set and match it with what is best for the team he is paid to lead. Coaches are like players. We all, players and coaches, have certain roles that we WANT to fill. For example, a player who wants to play LB, might be more needed on his team at Off.Guard. It doesn’t mean he is a bad LB, it just means that the coach believes that the TEAM is better if he plays guard. Football is the ultimate team sport. 11 guys have to individually do their specific job on each play in order to have a successful play. It’s no different with coaches. If the the asst. coach WANTS to be the LBer coach, the HC might believe that the TEAM is better if that coach works with offensive lineman. It’s not about the player’s feelings, or the asst. coaches feelings. It’s about what the HC thinks is best for the team. That being said, and what I believe is the most important part of this is that it’s critical that the HC communicates with each player and coach very honestly and directly about what their role is. That’s Leadership 101. The great head coaches can talk to a player who rushed for 1000 yards the year before as a FB, and convince that player that the team needs him to move to offensive line to be successful. All players and coaches just want to be respected enough to be communicated with openly and honestly. The great leaders make everyone feel great about the role the team needs them to fill. I have no problem with BW thinking that it’s best for the team for a coach to be the JV offensive coordinator or it’s best that a coach be the cameraman. I just think the coach will give everything he has if he is communicated with directly and honestly. Putting all the pieces together and making those pieces all feel motivated to contribute in their assigned role is the trick to being a great leader. You have to make the best person/coach on the team feel needed, as well as the worst player/coach on the team. The Head Coaches that don’t communicate with players and coaches about their role will always have a hard time. Hypothetically, of course, if the Head coach thinks it’s best for the team for me to walk around and be positive and assist other coaches, I would do it to the best of my ability. I just need to be communicated with so I know specifically that what he needs me to do. The worst situation is for a player or coach to not know what their role is.
    Just my observations over the years.
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    This...and so the Birds will continue to struggle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweeperboy View Post
    Soooo, you are telling me that The same John Rodenburg that coached CovCath to a state championship and the former HC at GCL power Moeller HS is going to accept something less than HC at Highlands?

    Highlands just had an offensive genius in Siple resigned because he couldn’t keep the video camera still and now they getting a replacement

    Idk, seems far fetched to me especially since they already have a OC that loves the game and the kids

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    Quote Originally Posted by goford View Post
    This is a great topic. There is a lot more to it than just choosing an asst. coach and putting him in a role. Head coaches have to look at each coach’s skill set and match it with what is best for the team he is paid to lead. Coaches are like players. We all, players and coaches, have certain roles that we WANT to fill. For example, a player who wants to play LB, might be more needed on his team at Off.Guard. It doesn’t mean he is a bad LB, it just means that the coach believes that the TEAM is better if he plays guard. Football is the ultimate team sport. 11 guys have to individually do their specific job on each play in order to have a successful play. It’s no different with coaches. If the the asst. coach WANTS to be the LBer coach, the HC might believe that the TEAM is better if that coach works with offensive lineman. It’s not about the player’s feelings, or the asst. coaches feelings. It’s about what the HC thinks is best for the team. That being said, and what I believe is the most important part of this is that it’s critical that the HC communicates with each player and coach very honestly and directly about what their role is. That’s Leadership 101. The great head coaches can talk to a player who rushed for 1000 yards the year before as a FB, and convince that player that the team needs him to move to offensive line to be successful. All players and coaches just want to be respected enough to be communicated with openly and honestly. The great leaders make everyone feel great about the role the team needs them to fill. I have no problem with BW thinking that it’s best for the team for a coach to be the JV offensive coordinator or it’s best that a coach be the cameraman. I just think the coach will give everything he has if he is communicated with directly and honestly. Putting all the pieces together and making those pieces all feel motivated to contribute in their assigned role is the trick to being a great leader. You have to make the best person/coach on the team feel needed, as well as the worst player/coach on the team. The Head Coaches that don’t communicate with players and coaches about their role will always have a hard time. Hypothetically, of course, if the Head coach thinks it’s best for the team for me to walk around and be positive and assist other coaches, I would do it to the best of my ability. I just need to be communicated with so I know specifically that what he needs me to do. The worst situation is for a player or coach to not know what their role is.
    Just my observations over the years.
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    So it sounds like the HC was lacking in communication with his staff and players? j

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