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    Although the Rocks were on the short end of the stick against both Elder, X and a scrimmage to Moeller, our boys learned alot from playing against these Ohio powers. I look forward to playing them for years to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streaker View Post
    Several years ago we had Trotwood Madison, Elder and St Francis DeSles scheduled all in one year. My opinion, the L's, the overall physical punishment on the team, took a toll on the 'Birds as they prepared for District play. JMO...
    Actually, Highlands played (at beat) Trotwood-Madison (Ohio) in 2007... they played Cincinnati Elder and Columbus St. Francis DeSales (and lost very close games to both of them) in 2006.

    I think the worst year in recent memory, with respect to taking physical punishment, was in 2005. Highlands had a young, inexperienced team that year (losing nearly every starter from the 2004 state champion squad), and got physically pounded by Cincinnati Colerain; the following week they paid a price for this game, losing to Louisville St. Xavier 45-0! A couple of weeks after that, they were beaten handily by Columbus St. Francis DeSales... 2005 was a tough year for the 'Birds, relatively speaking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Anthony View Post
    I am not surprised about St I losing.. go Tar Blooders!
    You should have been, Glenville has certainly done less with more in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homerun View Post
    I respect what Highlands has done. I went back and looked at their schedule and I believe that they have reached a point that they have to play a more difficult schedule to continue their bragging rights. Am I wrong that the win over Cincy St. X (12-7) was their only win against a really top notch opponent--meaning a nationally ranked or a perennial state champ? Going undefeated is challenging yet strength of schedule is important also. Not to minimize the win against Cincy St. X, but it would carry a lot more weight with wins agasint Lou St. X, Trinity, and other Ohio teams.

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    Sep 11, 09 Withrow, OH away 21 - 0 (W)
    Sep 18, 09 Boone County home 36 - 14 (W)
    Sep 25, 09 Cincy St. X OH home 12 - 7 (W)
    Oct 2, 09 Dixie Heights home 52 - 9 (W)
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    My post was simply talking about this year's Highlands team, versus how things would have gone in any one game against the best teams in Ohio. Nothing more, nothing less. I certainly wasn't bragging, but simply pointing out there aren't many (any) teams in Ohio this season who would be pulling their starters versus HHS very often if ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    I'm not sure the teams you list really proves much of a point. When was the last time St. Ed's was a factor? Middletown hadn't been to the playoffs in close to 20 years before this season, Wayne and Centerville are almost never factors at the state level.

    The other schools have a history of success. But only two teams can advance past round two. Elder has been one of them quite frequently this decade, which means only Anderson really busted through anything.

    Only real surprise I've seen this year is St. I's losing. I thought Moeller would beat Middletown, but knew it would be close and expected Anderson through to the finals once the brackets were set.

    Elder is really good, as is Anderson. I wouldn't call this a down year at all in Ohio.

    For those picking an Anderson win though, I'd be careful. The Redskins are awfully one-dimensional, and that typcially is a recipe for disaster against GCL schools.
    St. Edward is usually always a factor in their region. They have been very average the past couple of years due to coaching turnover. They were in the state title game in 2003.

    Middletown was very good this year. I am still shocked by their loss this past weekend. Wayne and Centerville are always players in in the ultra-competitive R4. They may not win the region a lot, but they are players. One of those teams made the regional finals in 2004 and 2005. Wayne went all the way to the state final in 1999, beating both Elder and St. Xavier on the way.

    Elder is not REALLY good, IMO. They are a solid football team, but their undoing will be their porous defense. You will see that this weekend when Anderson plays them. Not going to make a prediction as I have been wrong so much this year, I don't care to recount, however, I think if Anderson can eliminate the "big pass play", they have a very good chance to win the region. And if that happens, it will speak volumes about how far down the Division I teams in R4 are this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardinalsFan View Post
    St. Edward is usually always a factor in their region. They have been very average the past couple of years due to coaching turnover. They were in the state title game in 2003.

    Middletown was very good this year. I am still shocked by their loss this past weekend. Wayne and Centerville are always players in in the ultra-competitive R4. They may not win the region a lot, but they are players. One of those teams made the regional finals in 2004 and 2005. Wayne went all the way to the state final in 1999, beating both Elder and St. Xavier on the way.

    Elder is not REALLY good, IMO. They are a solid football team, but their undoing will be their porous defense. You will see that this weekend when Anderson plays them. Not going to make a prediction as I have been wrong so much this year, I don't care to recount, however, I think if Anderson can eliminate the "big pass play", they have a very good chance to win the region. And if that happens, it will speak volumes about how far down the Division I teams in R4 are this year.

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    Wow! So, even in an extremely down year, Colerain didn't make the playoffs!?! I hope some of the local programs can step it up next year and make a better showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Streaker View Post
    I think the St X win is one of the biggest wins of all time for the 'Birds. I am ready for more contests across the pond as a result of the St X victory. But, we paid a price for that victory and that was Bardo at the QB position. Due to the size and depth of our squads year-in and year-out, I would rather not schedule multiple GCL teams during a given year.

    Several years ago we had Trotwood Madison, Elder and St Francis DeSles scheduled all in one year. My opinion, the L's, the overall physical punishment on the team, took a toll on the 'Birds as they prepared for District play. JMO...

    This year... I think the 'Birds probably could handle that schedule and that is due to the depth on this year's squad. I guess we'll see what Dale has in mind for next year in due time.
    We did not play Elder and Trotwood Madison in the same year.Get your facts straight before you post about the Birds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardinalsFan View Post
    As I stated earlier, multiple times, in fact, St. Xavier was no where near the best team in the city of Cincy. Their offense is putrid and they never progressed after week 5.

    Overall, Division I in OH lacks a true "national" type power this year. Look at this list of teams NOT playing past round 2 of the playoffs:

    Colerain
    Moeller
    St. Xavier
    St. Ignatius
    St. Edward
    Middletown
    Wayne
    Centerville

    Overall, the state is just down this year. Good teams across the board, but no powers for certain. The Division I State Champ this year may be the weakest in a decade.

    Also, look for the Columbus winner to beat either Anderson or Elder in two weeks.

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    I bet your opinion would have been different about Ohio D1 if Colerain had made the playoffs! blah blah blah ! Go back to yappi !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGBird View Post
    Wow! So, even in an extremely down year, Colerain didn't make the playoffs!?! I hope some of the local programs can step it up next year and make a better showing.
    I know what you are trying to do here, but it's ridiculous when your two losses are to St. X and Elder, and you don't make the playoffs.

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    [QUOTE=birds3pete09;3622179]We did not play Elder and Trotwood Madison in the same year.Get your facts straight before you post about the Birds.[/QUOTE]

    Seems kind of harsh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardinalsFan View Post
    I think if Anderson can eliminate the "big pass play", they have a very good chance to win the region. And if that happens, it will speak volumes about how far down the Division I teams in R4 are this year.

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    So if Anderson advances instead of the usual suspects, it doesn't mean Anderson is that good, it means the others are just down?

    Is it impossible for Anderson to be better than really good Colerain, Elder, Moeller and St X teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72birdman View Post
    So if Anderson advances instead of the usual suspects, it doesn't mean Anderson is that good, it means the others are just down?

    Is it impossible for Anderson to be better than really good Colerain, Elder, Moeller and St X teams?
    Any team that beats Boone Co. as badly as Anderson did is a very good team...DI pedigree or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 72birdman View Post
    So if Anderson advances instead of the usual suspects, it doesn't mean Anderson is that good, it means the others are just down?

    Is it impossible for Anderson to be better than really good Colerain, Elder, Moeller and St X teams?
    Uhhhh...yes.

    Simply put, Anderson has bounced between D1 and D2 over the past decade. When they played the big boys in D1 either during the regular season or more specifically, in the playoffs, it was a mismatch. Every. Single. Time. They were never close to beating any of them.

    It is certainly NOT impossible for them to be better than the "Big 4" in Cincy this year. In fact, they may very well be. But I would contend that if that is the case, and they really are the best the Cincy region has to offer, then the region is down significantly vs. the past several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birds3pete09 View Post
    I bet your opinion would have been different about Ohio D1 if Colerain had made the playoffs! blah blah blah ! Go back to yappi !
    No, my opinion would not have been different. The region, and the state as a whole is down significantly this year. I can say that because I watched more Ohio High School football this year than you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexitucky View Post
    Any team that beats Boone Co. as badly as Anderson did is a very good team...DI pedigree or not.
    I don't know how much of Boone you saw this year but in my opinion that was the worst Boone team ive seen in 10 years.

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