Calpreps/Freeman Computer Poll Preseason Kentucky Rankings

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    Calpreps/Freeman Computer Poll Preseason Kentucky Rankings

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    1. Trinity (Also Preseason #12 in the Country)
    2. Scott County
    3. Johnson Central
    4. CAL
    5. PRP
    6. Lafayette
    7. Bowling Green
    8. Male
    9. St X
    10. Christian County


    7,8,9 switched with 2,3,4 and I'd be about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THS2011 View Post
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    1. Trinity (Also Preseason #12 in the Country)
    2. Scott County
    3. Johnson Central
    4. CAL
    5. PRP
    6. Lafayette
    7. Bowling Green
    8. Male
    9. St X
    10. Christian County


    7,8,9 switched with 2,3,4 and I'd be about right.
    Thanks for posting this and like you pointed out it is pretty laughable when you examine it.

    "National Rankings" and/or State Rankings done by a national entity always make me chuckle.

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    ^^^
    One important thing to note as well is this will change before now and the start of the season.

    The one thing I will give Calpreps, and I have said this before, is there actually is some intelligence put into their rankings and not just a CPU formula.

    They reach out to Coaches and try to get confirmation on # of starters lost, players with D-1 offers, and whether key positions or key players are returning.

    If you click "Team Preview" by each team you will see a note at the top saying "TEAM NOT OFFICIALLY RATED YET; HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM COACH"

    Once Calpreps receives this info they adjust their ratings appropriately. Kudos to them for at least attempting to put some thought in it... that's why I have always trusted Calpreps over the other CPU ratings (they also account for Out of State Competition during the season). It's also why I would actually take Calpreps over the AP Popularity Poll.

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    What these rankings essentially are right now is a mirror of how the teams finished last season while accounting for notable players lost or known Key Players returning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THS2011 View Post
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    1. Trinity (Also Preseason #12 in the Country)
    2. Scott County
    3. Johnson Central
    4. CAL
    5. PRP
    6. Lafayette
    7. Bowling Green
    8. Male
    9. St X
    10. Christian County


    7,8,9 switched with 2,3,4 and I'd be about right.
    Somewhat agreeable with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATLCat View Post
    ^^^
    One important thing to note as well is this will change before now and the start of the season.

    The one thing I will give Calpreps, and I have said this before, is there actually is some intelligence put into their rankings and not just a CPU formula.

    They reach out to Coaches and try to get confirmation on # of starters lost, players with D-1 offers, and whether key positions or key players are returning.

    If you click "Team Preview" by each team you will see a note at the top saying "TEAM NOT OFFICIALLY RATED YET; HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM COACH"

    Once Calpreps receives this info they adjust their ratings appropriately. Kudos to them for at least attempting to put some thought in it... that's why I have always trusted Calpreps over the other CPU ratings (they also account for Out of State Competition during the season). It's also why I would actually take Calpreps over the AP Popularity Poll.
    All of this! In my opinion, if you take out five prominent rankings, I'd put them in order of accuracy:

    1. BGP
    2. Calpreps
    3. Litkenhous
    4. Cantrall
    5. AP

    The gap between the top two and next three is pretty wide, too.

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    The gap between the top four and the AP is pretty wide.

    Some of my fellow journalists need to do more research. Some need to NOT vote local schools so high.

    That being said, @Jason Frakes posts his weekly votes on here for everyone to see. He doesn't hide.

    It would be great if the AP posted voting ballots for this very reason: It would force voters to become more accurate and less homerish.

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    Johnson Central at 3?

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    CALPREPS.COM KY PRESEASON RATINGS
    1. Trinity (Lou.) 66.6
    2. Scott Co. (Georgetown) 48.9
    3. Johnson Central (Paintsville) 48.3
    4. Christian Academy (Lou.) 44.2
    5. Pleasure Ridge Park (Lou.) 43.5
    6. Lafayette (Lex.) 40
    7. Bowling Green 39.3
    8. Male (Lou.) 39.2
    9. St. Xavier (Lou.) 38.9
    10. Christian Co. (Hopkinsville) 37.9
    11. Corbin 35.3
    12. Ryle (Union) 35.2
    13. Belfry 34
    14. Covington Cath. (Park Hills) 32.2
    15. Kenton [Simon] (Independence) 31.5
    16. Ballard (Lou.) 31.3
    17. Mayfield 28.5
    18. Danville 26.6
    19. DuPont Manual (Lou.) 26.5
    20. Fern Creek (Lou.) 25.7
    21. Central (Lou.) 24.8
    22. Pulaski Co. (Somerset) 24.5
    23. Franklin-Simpson (Franklin) 23.9
    24. DeSales (Lou.) 23.7
    25. Lex. Christian (Lex.) 23.5
    26. Greenwood (Bowling Green) 22.9
    27. Hopkinsville 22.7
    28. Boyle Co. (Danville) 22
    29. Wayne Co. (Monticello) 21.6
    30. Doss (Lou.) 21.4
    31. Elizabethtown 21.2
    32. Lex. Cath. (Lex.) 21.2
    33. South Oldham (Crestwood) 19.9
    34. Paintsville 19.5
    35. Russell 18.1
    36. McCracken Co. (Paducah) 17.9
    37. Owensboro 17.9
    38. Madison Southern (Berea) 16.9
    39. Owensboro Cath. (Owensboro) 16.6
    40. Beechwood (Fort Mitchell) 16.5
    41. Conner (Hebron) 16.4
    42. Cooper (Union) 14.1
    43. Tates Creek (Lex.) 13.9
    44. Madison Central (Richmond) 13.4
    45. Ashland Blazer [Paul G.] (Ashland) 12.8
    46. Shelby Co. (Shelbyville) 12.8
    47. Rockcastle Co. (Mt. Vernon) 12.6
    48. Graves Co. (Mayfield) 12.1
    49. Whitley Co. (Williamsburg) 11.2
    50. Casey Co. (Liberty) 10.6
    51. Mercer Co. (Harrodsburg) 10.6
    52. Central Hardin (Cecilia) 10.3
    53. South Warren (Bowling Green) 10.1
    54. Butler (Lou.) 10
    55. Southwestern (Somerset) 9.8
    56. John Hardin (Elizabethtown) 8.9
    57. Raceland 8.9
    58. Campbell Co. (Alexandria) 8.6
    59. Moore (Lou.) 8.4
    60. Clay [Henry] (Lex.) 8.3
    61. Hazard 7.9
    62. Dunbar [Paul Laurence] (Lex.) 7.8
    63. Bullitt Central (Shepherdsville) 7.8
    64. Fleming Co. (Flemingsburg) 7.5
    65. North Laurel (London) 7.1
    66. Bryan Station (Lex.) 6.6
    67. Collins (Shelbyville) 6.6
    68. Eastern (Lou.) 6.4
    69. Greenup Co. (Greenup) 6.2
    70. Somerset 6
    71. Holy Cross (Covington) 5.9
    72. Kentucky Country Day (Lou.) 5.7
    73. Bardstown 4
    74. Pikeville 3.9
    75. Caldwell Co. (Princeton) 3.8
    76. Harlan Co. (Harlan) 3.8
    77. Waggener (Lou.) 3.5
    78. North Hardin (Radcliff) 3
    79. Western Hills (Frankfort) 2.7
    80. Dixie Heights (Edgewood) 2.4
    81. Daviess Co. (Owensboro) 1.5
    82. Garrard Co. (Lancaster) 0.2
    83. Holy Cross (Lou.) 0.2
    84. Allen Co.-Scottsville (Scottsville) -0.1
    85. Taylor Co. (Campbellsville) -0.1
    86. Marshall Co. (Benton) -0.3
    87. Spencer Co. (Taylorsville) -0.6
    88. Newport Central Cath. (Newport) -1
    89. Paducah Tilghman (Paducah) -1.5
    90. East Jessamine (Nicholasville) -1.9
    91. Franklin Co. (Frankfort) -2.9
    92. Henderson Co. (Henderson) -3.6
    93. North Bullitt (Shepherdsville) -3.8
    94. Glasgow -3.8
    95. Knox Central (Barbourville) -4
    96. Williamsburg -4.2
    97. South Laurel (London) -4.2
    98. Oldham Co. (Buckner) -4.4
    99. Walton-Verona (Walton) -4.5
    100. Southern (Lou.) -4.5
    101. Highlands (Fort Thomas) -4.5
    102. Apollo (Owensboro) -4.5
    103. Anderson Co. (Lawrenceburg) -4.5
    104. Meade Co. (Brandenburg) -4.5
    105. Scott (Covington) -4.5
    106. Russellville -4.5
    107. Calloway Co. (Murray) -4.5
    108. Fairview (Ashland) -4.5
    109. Boone Co. (Florence) -4.5
    110. Muhlenberg Co. (Greenville) -4.6
    111. Butler Co. (Morgantown) -4.9
    112. Clark [George Rogers] (Winchester) -4.9
    113. Bourbon Co. (Paris) -5
    114. Lloyd Memorial (Erlanger) -5.3
    115. Western (Lou.) -5.4
    116. Lincoln Co. (Stanford) -5.8
    117. Murray -6.2
    118. Russell Co. (Russell Springs) -6.5
    119. Mason Co. (Maysville) -6.6
    120. Union Co. (Morganfield) -7.4
    121. Letcher Co. Central (Whitesburg) -7.4
    122. Estill Co. (Irvine) -7.8
    123. Monroe Co. (Tompkinsville) -8.2
    124. Madisonville-North Hopkins -8.4
    125. Warren East (Bowling Green) -8.6
    126. Lawrence Co. (Louisa) -8.7
    127. Ballard Memorial (Barlow) -9
    128. Valley (Lou.) -9.3
    129. West Jessamine (Nicholasville) -9.4
    130. Boyd Co. (Ashland) -9.7
    131. Fairdale -9.9
    132. Adair Co. (Columbia) -10
    133. Pike Co. Central (Pikeville) -10
    134. Larue Co. (Hodgenville) -10.1
    135. Bullitt East (Mt. Washington) -10.1
    136. Bell Co. (Pineville) -10.2
    137. Harrison Co. (Cynthiana) -10.4
    138. McCreary Central (Stearns) -11.9
    139. Nicholas Co. (Carlisle) -11.9
    140. Woodford Co. (Versailles) -12.5
    141. West Carter (Olive Hill) -13.2
    142. Metcalfe Co. (Edmonton) -13.3
    143. Edmonson Co. (Brownsville) -14.1
    144. Montgomery Co. (Mt. Sterling) -14.1
    145. McLean Co. (Calhoun) -14.8
    146. Harlan -15.8
    147. Perry Co. Central (Hazard) -16.3
    148. Jeffersontown (Lou.) -16.6
    149. Marion Co. (Lebanon) -16.7
    150. Leslie Co. (Hyden) -16.8
    151. Prestonsburg -16.8
    152. Frankfort -16.9
    153. Allen Central (Eastern) -17.5
    154. East Carter (Grayson) -18.7
    155. Seneca (Lou.) -18.8
    156. Bracken Co. (Brooksville) -18.8
    157. Grant Co. (Dry Ridge) -19
    158. Crittenden Co. (Marion) -19
    159. Henry Co. (New Castle) -19.1
    160. Thomas Nelson (Bardstown) -19.2
    161. Trigg Co. (Cadiz) -19.8
    162. Bethlehem (Bardstown) -20.4
    163. Bishop Brossart (Alexandria) -20.7
    164. Paris -20.9
    165. Fort Campbell -21
    166. Owen Co. (Owenton) -21.2
    167. Clay Co. (Manchester) -22
    168. Ohio Co. (Hartford) -22.1
    169. Bath Co. (Owingsville) -22.3
    170. Campbellsville -22.4
    171. Washington Co. (Springfield) -23
    172. Iroquois (Lou.) -23
    173. Warren Central (Bowling Green) -23.1
    174. North Oldham (Goshen) -23.9
    175. Lynn Camp (Corbin) -24.1
    176. Hart Co. (Munfordville) -24.3
    177. Middlesboro -24.4
    178. Holmes (Covington) -24.5
    179. Rowan Co. (Morehead) -24.6
    180. Logan Co. (Russellville) -25.1
    181. Gallatin Co. (Warsaw) -25.2
    182. Green Co. (Greensburg) -26
    183. Shelby Valley (Pikeville) -26.7
    184. Powell Co. (Stanton) -28.7
    185. Atherton (Lou.) -29
    186. Ludlow -29.3
    187. Grayson Co. (Leitchfield) -29.4
    188. Lewis Co. (Vanceburg) -29.5
    189. Barren Co. (Glasgow) -30.4
    190. Pendleton Co. (Falmouth) -30.4
    191. Breathitt Co. (Jackson) -30.8
    192. Hopkins Co. Central (Madisonville) -31
    193. Eminence -32.1
    194. Hancock Co. (Lewisport) -32.2
    195. Pineville -32.3
    196. Nelson Co. (Bardstown) -32.6
    197. Knott Co. Central (Hindman) -33.8
    198. Breckinridge Co. (Harned) -34.7
    199. Webster Co. (Dixon) -35.6
    200. Clinton Co. (Albany) -35.9
    201. Floyd Central (Langley) -35.9
    202. Douglass [Frederick] (Lex.) -35.9
    203. Carroll Co. (Carrollton) -36.1
    204. Bellevue -36.4
    205. East Ridge (Lick Creek) -36.7
    206. Dayton -39.4
    207. Jackson Co. (McKee) -41.3
    208. Phelps -41.4
    209. Newport -41.7
    210. Magoffin Co. (Salyersville) -43.4
    211. Sheldon Clark (Inez) -43.6
    212. Shawnee (Lou.) -47.4
    213. Trimble Co. (Bedford) -50.4
    214. Fulton City (Fulton) -50.9
    215. Fort Knox -50.9
    216. Todd Co. Central (Elkton) -52.9
    217. Morgan Co. (West Liberty) -54.8
    218. Jenkins -55.4
    219. Fulton Co. (Hickman) -57.2
    220. Caverna (Horse Cave) -59.3
    221. Betsy Layne -60.3
    222. Berea -62.4
    223. South Floyd (Hi Hat) -63.5

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    It is a preseason computer poll. That puts more guesswork into the computer than facts, especially at the high school level. That said, both Beechwood and Hazard look too low. Both teams were state finalists and have a lot of talent returning.

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    Boone County at 109? They haven't won a game in a long time.

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    It's not where you start, it's where you finish...

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    That rating changes daily as teams trend up or down and it looks a lot different today than it did a few days ago. I find it really interesting, though, and enjoy looking at the criteria for moving teams up/down.

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