Boyle County 40 Corbin 21 - 3A State Championship

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelpride64 View Post
    Congrats on a great season 4chs
    Same to you guys. Corbin had a couple of flaws as a team, unfortunately Coach Smith found them and the players executed the game plan.
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    The ejection was ridiculous. The officiating crew last night was not great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wireman View Post
    The ejection was ridiculous. The officiating crew last night was not great
    There were a lot of calls that were really bang-bang though where one team or the other was going to be mad. The Corbin paper had a pretty good picture of one of the no calls that a lot of Corbin fans were upset about. It probably saved a 75 yard TD pass from Estep to #5 when the Boyle defender grabbed his arm which prevented him from catching the pass, which was a really smart play by the defender. I never really saw much of anything the entire game to warrant the personal fouls they were calling.

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    After semifinal losses the past couple of years, Haddix talked about his Redhounds "playing 15" this year. I doubt that Reese Smith (#15) is what he had in mind. Let this be a lesson, folks... be careful what you wish for!

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    Boyle has skill players stacked up like cord wood! Big shoes to fill on both offense and defensive line for next year though. With Hatter, Kelly and Roller back the defense has a great foundation already, Ned Stephens is the only offensive lineman returning of the starting five. He did not get as much press as he should have do in part to standout Bremal but he had a great year none the less and will be getting collage attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilMayCare View Post
    After semifinal losses the past couple of years, Haddix talked about his Redhounds "playing 15" this year. I doubt that Reese Smith (#15) is what he had in mind. Let this be a lesson, folks... be careful what you wish for!
    This is comedy!! Lol

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    Just wanted to bring this back to the top.

    Love seeing it shine on Page 1 of the Board!!!!!


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    Just looked at the video of the reception/TD ruled incomplete late in the First Half. You know, the most controversial play of the game.

    Looking at it and slowing it down, and of course wearing Rebel Raybans, it appears incomplete to me.

    Corbin receiver catches the ball while in the air and is hit, still in the air by Smith from Boyle. As soon as the Corbin player hits the ground the ball comes out.

    I think the rule reads that you have to have control of a pass and foot on the ground to establish possession.

    I could be wrong. When I saw it Friday I thought it was a catch. Now I really don't think so. If you paid for the broadcast you can pull it up on this link:

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    One thing no one has mentioned. Watch the replay. The play was designed as a screen left. Sizemore then went down field. But there were two Corbin linemen downfield when he threw the ball. Check it out on the replay. #52 and #55 are 10 yards down field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    Just looked at the video of the reception/TD ruled incomplete late in the First Half. You know, the most controversial play of the game.

    Looking at it and slowing it down, and of course wearing Rebel Raybans, it appears incomplete to me.

    Corbin receiver catches the ball while in the air and is hit, still in the air by Smith from Boyle. As soon as the Corbin player hits the ground the ball comes out.

    I think the rule reads that you have to have control of a pass and foot on the ground to establish possession.

    I could be wrong. When I saw it Friday I thought it was a catch. Now I really don't think so. If you paid for the broadcast you can pull it up on this link:

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    One thing no one has mentioned. Watch the replay. The play was designed as a screen left. Sizemore then went down field. But there were two Corbin linemen downfield when he threw the ball. Check it out on the replay. #52 and #55 are 10 yards down field.
    I never was sure about that catch/fumble being a TD. I was on the other side of the field and they never showed a replay at the stadium.

    Look at the replay and let me know what you think on the Estep pass early in the 4th quarter that sure looked like a pass interference on the Corbin side of the field. Also, there was what appeared to be an obvious pass interference down inside the 10, which was also along the Boyle sideline(all 4 plays I have heard our fans griping about were on the Boyle sideline) when Corbin turned it over on downs.

    I'm just wondering what someone from the opposing side thought about those no calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4chs View Post
    I never was sure about that catch/fumble being a TD. I was on the other side of the field and they never showed a replay at the stadium.

    Look at the replay and let me know what you think on the Estep pass early in the 4th quarter that sure looked like a pass interference on the Corbin side of the field. Also, there was what appeared to be an obvious pass interference down inside the 10, which was also along the Boyle sideline(all 4 plays I have heard our fans griping about were on the Boyle sideline) when Corbin turned it over on downs.

    I'm just wondering what someone from the opposing side thought about those no calls.
    I will try to get on tomorrow and see what I can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4chs View Post
    I never was sure about that catch/fumble being a TD. I was on the other side of the field and they never showed a replay at the stadium.

    Look at the replay and let me know what you think on the Estep pass early in the 4th quarter that sure looked like a pass interference on the Corbin side of the field. Also, there was what appeared to be an obvious pass interference down inside the 10, which was also along the Boyle sideline(all 4 plays I have heard our fans griping about were on the Boyle sideline) when Corbin turned it over on downs.

    I'm just wondering what someone from the opposing side thought about those no calls.
    4th Quarter pass to #5 was along the Boyle Sidelines. It was First and 10 with 8:34 to play and the score 40-21.

    It was a bang bang play the defender. As the ball got there the defender reached out and hit the inside arm of #5 as the ball arrived and then dove into the receiver. Slowed down as much as I could on the site, I think his hand might have been there an instant before the ball. In live action it's hard to see. Very close play. If he had ruled PI the slowed down replay I have tells me its a good call by the letter of the rule. I thought it was a great throw by Estep and great attempt by #5. Probably even better recovery by the Boyle Defender.

    3rd Quarter pass attempt to #10 was also along the Boyle Sidelines but by the goal line where I don't think that plays into it. Coaches are 20 yards away. 3rd Down and 9. Score is 33-21 Boyle.

    It was one of those plays like any pass defense play and the other one. Sizemore lofted it some and it allowed the BC defender to get there as the ball did. Rebel player does a good job on the upfield side of getting around the defender and use his left arm to reach out ahead of the defender. The key is where is his left arm? In the angle on the broadcast you can't see it. The other angle would reveal. If he has his right arm on the player that is PI. If not it's a great play. The pass itself appear a little out of the reach of the Receiver but there is no uncatchable rule in HS Football so that doesn't matter. Ball gets there the same time both players dive for it. I see this one as less possibly PI than the first one you asked about.

    They were tough plays and they went Boyle's way. It doesn't help fighting an uphill battle and then see judgment plays fall the other direction.

    Sure there's a complaint in both of them. It's probably going to be what we want it to be from the angles of the broadcast. If it was the NFL we would see 360 and know exactly. From what I see you can build a case either way. I know some have posted pictures but pics are often out of context of what is happening that leads up to the still moment. Is the ball there? Isn't it past? How does it look by another angle?

    Still I appreciate your classy posts 4chs. I don't know if I helped or hurt. The non calls hurt Corbin. Sure. Just like the OLine for Boyle hurt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatz View Post
    4th Quarter pass to #5 was along the Boyle Sidelines. It was First and 10 with 8:34 to play and the score 40-21.

    It was a bang bang play the defender. As the ball got there the defender reached out and hit the inside arm of #5 as the ball arrived and then dove into the receiver. Slowed down as much as I could on the site, I think his hand might have been there an instant before the ball. In live action it's hard to see. Very close play. If he had ruled PI the slowed down replay I have tells me its a good call by the letter of the rule. I thought it was a great throw by Estep and great attempt by #5. Probably even better recovery by the Boyle Defender.

    3rd Quarter pass attempt to #10 was also along the Boyle Sidelines but by the goal line where I don't think that plays into it. Coaches are 20 yards away. 3rd Down and 9. Score is 33-21 Boyle.

    It was one of those plays like any pass defense play and the other one. Sizemore lofted it some and it allowed the BC defender to get there as the ball did. Rebel player does a good job on the upfield side of getting around the defender and use his left arm to reach out ahead of the defender. The key is where is his left arm? In the angle on the broadcast you can't see it. The other angle would reveal. If he has his right arm on the player that is PI. If not it's a great play. The pass itself appear a little out of the reach of the Receiver but there is no uncatchable rule in HS Football so that doesn't matter. Ball gets there the same time both players dive for it. I see this one as less possibly PI than the first one you asked about.

    They were tough plays and they went Boyle's way. It doesn't help fighting an uphill battle and then see judgment plays fall the other direction.

    Sure there's a complaint in both of them. It's probably going to be what we want it to be from the angles of the broadcast. If it was the NFL we would see 360 and know exactly. From what I see you can build a case either way. I know some have posted pictures but pics are often out of context of what is happening that leads up to the still moment. Is the ball there? Isn't it past? How does it look by another angle?

    Still I appreciate your classy posts 4chs. I don't know if I helped or hurt. The non calls hurt Corbin. Sure. Just like the OLine for Boyle hurt them.
    I didn't really have any problem with the officiating in the game. There were so many close plays such as these that it's understandable that some are going to be missed in real time and that one side or the other is going to feel slighted. On most of those plays, Boyle Co. was playing aggressively and trying to make plays, which is the way they played the entire game and a big factor in why they won convincingly.

    Boyle's OL hurt Corbin a whole lot more than any calls that may have went the other way. I was very surprised how easily they made it look controlling the line of scrimmage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4chs View Post
    I didn't really have any problem with the officiating in the game. There were so many close plays such as these that it's understandable that some are going to be missed in real time and that one side or the other is going to feel slighted. On most of those plays, Boyle Co. was playing aggressively and trying to make plays, which is the way they played the entire game and a big factor in why they won convincingly.

    Boyle's OL hurt Corbin a whole lot more than any calls that may have went the other way. I was very surprised how easily they made it look controlling the line of scrimmage.
    I was happily surprised at that. Boyle's Defensive Line did a great job as well. Once Boyle jumped out early Corbin seemed uncomfortable the rest of the game.

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    Finally saw the drop/fumble at the end. Seeing live I thought there were two options 1)Incomplete or 2)ground caused fumble in the endzone. However I only have seen the one angle from the KHSAA broadcast and cant go frame by frame. Itd be nice to have a view from the Boyle Co sideline.

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