Covington Catholic roster

Page 2 of Looking at the roster posted on khsaa CC looks to have 38 players between jv and varsity. Ten seniors means that 4 to 6 Jr's on jv. I think Highlands n... 91 comments | 6055 Views | Go to page 1 →

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    That brings up a good question. What is the best mix of players on the varsity roster for the long term success of a program?
    Experience and senior leadership is great to have, but i believe you also need to have a good number of juniors who actually play as well as few sophomores who can get time, in order to build year after year.

    How many programs carry juniors on JV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbeagle View Post
    I think that roster on RIHERDS KHSAA site just moves everyone up a year in some cases until one is submitted. St X hasn't even had tryouts yet. They carry a big number of players. IF you look at this year's seniors, I would guess many of them didn't get much time last year. St X has been known to carry a number of "practice players". Players that train but come in not having much of any opportunity to play.

    That being said, they have been loaded with players for years and always get a deep , incoming class every year. They stack the players up deep, problem is that you can only have 11 on the field. They had 35 players on the roster last year with only 2 sophs.. You definitely have to pay your dues there.

    I would give them a good chance to win their region. Collegiate lost a bunch from last year and Trinity will be young.
    I am not sure the bolded is is the case, there are other schools listed as not filing a roster with KHSAA yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warbeagle View Post
    That brings up a good question. What is the best mix of players on the varsity roster for the long term success of a program?
    Experience and senior leadership is great to have, but i believe you also need to have a good number of juniors who actually play as well as few sophomores who can get time, in order to build year after year.

    How many programs carry juniors on JV?
    I would agree, to build a consistently successful program you need contribution each season from seniors, juniors, and a couple to a few sophomores at the varsity level. Some yrs there may be exceptions, but on whole this system works very well.

    Many very successful programs with lots of depth will play juniors on JV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentschTrachtGottLacht View Post
    I know for a fact that there are kids on this roster that were cut last week, and there are kids who will play some varsity that aren't included. In short, while I don't know where this roster came from, I'm calling hogwash.
    I may be forgetting someone but from what I see, the kids that will play varsity for CCH are listed on the roster as shown other than Patrick Seibert. I don't see any sophomores other than Darpel or Stava playing other than an end of the year move up from JV. Again, maybe forgetting a player or two but this is a senior/junior heavy team and they all look like they are on there. I'd guess half the juniors will land on JV.

    In 2014, CCH had probably 10 or so juniors on JV and in 2015 they won the state title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by groinpull View Post
    I may be forgetting someone but from what I see, the kids that will play varsity for CCH are listed on the roster as shown other than Patrick Seibert. I don't see any sophomores other than Darpel or Stava playing other than an end of the year move up from JV. Again, maybe forgetting a player or two but this is a senior/junior heavy team and they all look like they are on there. I'd guess half the juniors will land on JV.

    In 2014, CCH had probably 10 or so juniors on JV and in 2015 they won the state title.
    Actually, what I'm hearing now is that all juniors will be on varsity for CCH so JV will be strictly sophs and a frosh or two.

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    Don't pay attention to the rosters on KHSAA right now. Once they are unlocked, the KHSAA system automatically "moves up" players from the roster the previous year. A school administrator has to unlock them which is why many schools are listed as not submitted. I would guess little to no rosters are accurate at this time.

    A question about NKY soccer - is it normal for the NKY programs to have a ton of juniors on JV? I hear Highlands will have about 10 on their JV team. That is a ton and I don't really see that in other parts of the state outside of a few private schools. If anything, the trend is that JV teams are getting younger with the addition of a bunch of middle school players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goal15 View Post
    Don't pay attention to the rosters on KHSAA right now. Once they are unlocked, the KHSAA system automatically "moves up" players from the roster the previous year. A school administrator has to unlock them which is why many schools are listed as not submitted. I would guess little to no rosters are accurate at this time.

    A question about NKY soccer - is it normal for the NKY programs to have a ton of juniors on JV? I hear Highlands will have about 10 on their JV team. That is a ton and I don't really see that in other parts of the state outside of a few private schools. If anything, the trend is that JV teams are getting younger with the addition of a bunch of middle school players.
    To me this is a sign the program(s) is dwindling in the number of students in grades 9-12 participating. It's my understanding freshman teams that invite middle schoolers to tryout are only doing so because they need players to form that freshman team, not because of desire to have middle schoolers on the roster. If this is now happening to the JV teams, it is a bad trend IMO.

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    N. Ky teams really should consider doing away with the freshman teams and going to an A and B team at the JV level like Ohio schools are doing. Only a few teams field true freshman teams in N. Ky. with most supplementing with 8th graders or even younger. Have a varsity and a JV team and if you have enough, form two JV teams. I've seen some schools have players playing at all three levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that's what she said View Post
    To me this is a sign the program(s) is dwindling in the number of students in grades 9-12 participating. It's my understanding freshman teams that invite middle schoolers to tryout are only doing so because they need players to form that freshman team, not because of desire to have middle schoolers on the roster. If this is now happening to the JV teams, it is a bad trend IMO.
    Not necessarily. I think there are other reasons to have middle school players involved. But I do agree that I think the numbers have dwindled, at least the past couple of years. That's why I was asking. Seems NKY numbers are still very strong. I hear Ryle had like 80 kids at tryouts. I rarely see even one junior on JV in the central KY area, and pretty much every program has at least one middle school player on JV.

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    One of the main reasons for having Middle Schoolers play for the HS, is the level of competition and training that the middle schooler gets. The club teams are expensive and require purchasing gear, travel, etc. Choices are: Rec - $, Volunteer coaches, 1 or 2 days of practice, low level of competition. Club - $$$$, Trained coaches, 1 - 3 days of practice, higher level of competition. High School - $$, Varying levels of coaching, 5 days of practice, high level of competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goal15 View Post
    Don't pay attention to the rosters on KHSAA right now. Once they are unlocked, the KHSAA system automatically "moves up" players from the roster the previous year. A school administrator has to unlock them which is why many schools are listed as not submitted. I would guess little to no rosters are accurate at this time.

    A question about NKY soccer - is it normal for the NKY programs to have a ton of juniors on JV? I hear Highlands will have about 10 on their JV team. That is a ton and I don't really see that in other parts of the state outside of a few private schools. If anything, the trend is that JV teams are getting younger with the addition of a bunch of middle school players.
    Highlands has a huge junior class. Last year the team was all sophomores with two freshman. This year, eight of those juniors are on varsity. I believe that 7 Juniors are on JV with 1 Freshman and the rest Sophomores. I don't know how that will affect games against teams where they need middle school players, but it will have to impact a couple. It is a unique situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidelineView View Post
    One of the main reasons for having Middle Schoolers play for the HS, is the level of competition and training that the middle schooler gets. The club teams are expensive and require purchasing gear, travel, etc. Choices are: Rec - $, Volunteer coaches, 1 or 2 days of practice, low level of competition. Club - $$$$, Trained coaches, 1 - 3 days of practice, higher level of competition. High School - $$, Varying levels of coaching, 5 days of practice, high level of competition.
    If a team needs a few middle school players to fill out a freshman team, I am for that. But having an 7-8th grader play JV against kids much older and on the other side of puberty, you are looking to get someone hurt. I personally think the club option for a child that age would help building technical ability and tactical awareness. Now that depends on the club and the coach.

    How many teams in NKY have Freshman teams? Highlands, Cov Cath, Ryle, NCC, St henry, any more?

    Louisville has Male, Manuel, St X, Trinity, Butler

    not sure if any lexington area teams have enough to field a freshman team.

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    Is there not still a khsaa rule.. for football and soccer.. prohibiting middle schoolers ..or at least probibiting them from playing against some one 11th grade or higher? There used to be but not sure currently
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    Quote Originally Posted by justwondering1 View Post
    Is there not still a khsaa rule.. for football and soccer.. prohibiting middle schoolers ..or at least probibiting them from playing against some one 11th grade or higher? There used to be but not sure currently
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    Yes there is,.. But it just governs VARSITY teams:
    Sec. 2) ELIGIBILITY FOR PARTICIPATION WHILE LEGALLY ENROLLED BELOW GRADE 9
    a) A pupil in grades 7-8 in the feeder pattern of a KHSAA member
    school under the same local Board of Education as the member school may play on the high school team (at any level of play) if that participation is not in conflict with Sec. 3 below, and the time so played shall not be counted on the four (4) year (eight (8) semester) limit.
    b) Students enrolled below grade seven (7) may not play on a high school team at any level.
    c) A student below grade nine (9) may not participate on the varsity team in contests in the sports of football or soccer.

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    additionally, 7-8 graders can't play in JV games if the other teams have juniors..


    Students in grades 7 and 8 may not participate in any activity designated by either team as “varsity (first team)” in football or soccer. 7th and 8th grade students may not wear the game uniform (in whole or part), or be involved in pre-game activities or any other contest related activity prior to, during or after, a varsity practice, scrimmage or contest in the sports of football or soccer. 7th and 8th grade students may not participate (practice, scrimmage or contest) on nonvarsity (freshmen, junior varsity, etc.) level teams in football or soccer if any member of the team they are representing or the team they are competing against during any part of that practice, scrimmage or contest is enrolled in any grade above grade ten (10). It is the obligation of the school desiring to allow the seventh or eighth grade student to participate with the nonvarsity team to ensure compliance with this provision.
    Students below grade seven (7) may not participate (practice, scrimmage or contest) on any high school level team (freshmen, junior varsity, varsity) in football or soccer.

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