Technical vs. Warning

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    Totally agree that the behavior of the DHHS coach and the subsequent ref decisions were not good. However, I was more disappointed in the lack of discipline shown by the Bball Birds in response. Not a good look!
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    I have no dog in this fight, but in my opinion, if in fact the coach’s behavior is this bad, part of the blame lies with the officials. He’s been allowed to get away with it when he should be T’d up, and thrown out if it continued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinger4g View Post
    Totally agree that the behavior of the DHHS coach and the subsequent ref decisions were not good. However, I was more disappointed in the lack of discipline shown by the Bball Birds in response. Not a good look!
    I agree if Dixie’s coach want to throw a temper tantrum let’s not stoop to his level. Let the officials handle it play our game.

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    As a referee, I can't speak for specific calls or decisions. However, the warning rule put into place this year allows every one in the gym to know the coach is treading on thin ice. Last year, you could extend arm and whisper : " that's enough" . You can do that still but the warning has proven to be more effective in keeping coaches in accordance to the rule book.
    On fast breaks, if an offensive player has a clear breakaway and the defender pushes, grabs, or holds in an attempt to prevent the goal, it is by rule an intentional foul. It is a point of emphasis this year to give intentional fouls to any foul at the end of the game not playing the ball and grabbing the offensive player. 2 shots and the ball is the penalty.

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    The officiating in the Highlands/Dixie was fair and of good quality. The same could be said for all the games last night at NKU. The Dixie coach at Highlands should have been tossed from my view point he went aggressively at the official. The game against Scott last night he went aggressive after his own player after the game and continued on the kid through the line shaking hands and after the kid walked away and sat down.

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    It's a shame that we even feel it is necessary to warn an adult that their behavior is inappropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelMike View Post
    It's a shame that we even feel it is necessary to warn an adult that their behavior is inappropriate.
    This x 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelMike View Post
    It's a shame that we even feel it is necessary to warn an adult that their behavior is inappropriate.
    Cause coaches and even parents get wound up into it. Lots of adults living their dream thru the kids. Sports is suppose to be used as a tool to teach life. If the officiating is bad then the kids and COACH need to learn from it and control what they can control. Not make a scene. No official try’s to do bad or make mistakes. Just like no kid try’s to miss a layup. Allowing the outburst is unacceptable I feel no coach should ever talk to a referee. Coach your team build them up. Forget yelling At officials just puts the thought in the kids mind that the man in charge is out to get the team. Officials are like cops there may be some bad ones but very few. I feel none of them truly try to dictate the game or do any I’ll harm to a team or player. Some coaches set a bad example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelMike View Post
    It's a shame that we even feel it is necessary to warn an adult that their behavior is inappropriate.
    I disagree with this, its a moment, sometimes a coach is fighting for one of his kids, yes some things cross the line and should be T accordingly, but there is a lot that can be said that is grey or not across the line, but when said in abondance it can cross the line. Thats what the warning is for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    I disagree with this, its a moment, sometimes a coach is fighting for one of his kids, yes some things cross the line and should be T accordingly, but there is a lot that can be said that is grey or not across the line, but when said in abondance it can cross the line. Thats what the warning is for.
    I don't think the incident in question quite fits into what you're talking about. But I will concede I wasn't there.

    Still, my point remains. If I'm acting that far out of bounds, there should never be a need for a warning. Personally, as a coach, I'll be darned if I'm going to show my kids that the way to solve all your problems is to make it someone else's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelMike View Post
    I don't think the incident in question quite fits into what you're talking about. But I will concede I wasn't there.

    Still, my point remains. If I'm acting that far out of bounds, there should never be a need for a warning. Personally, as a coach, I'll be darned if I'm going to show my kids that the way to solve all your problems is to make it someone else's fault.
    To be honest im not sure what the incident was (lots have been mentioned in this thread) my statement was a general one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelMike View Post
    I don't think the incident in question quite fits into what you're talking about. But I will concede I wasn't there.

    Still, my point remains. If I'm acting that far out of bounds, there should never be a need for a warning. Personally, as a coach, I'll be darned if I'm going to show my kids that the way to solve all your problems is to make it someone else's fault.
    Nail on the head. I was sitting with a Cov Cath parent last night who brought my attention to the Dixie coach. He told me to watch he will argue every call against Dixie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    To be honest im not sure what the incident was (lots have been mentioned in this thread) my statement was a general one.
    Arguing a judgement call is ridiculous. If the official missed a ruling by the rules is different. Plus it’s the way the coach approaches the call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plantmanky View Post
    To be honest im not sure what the incident was (lots have been mentioned in this thread) my statement was a general one.
    Fair enough. I certainly see your point. As both a coach and a baseball umpire, I can see both sides. But I actually think the Japanese have it right on this point - coaches don't confront officials. They show restraint, respect for authority, and responsibility - all the things you want your players to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basketball1235 View Post
    Arguing a judgement call is ridiculous. If the official missed a ruling by the rules is different. Plus itís the way the coach approaches the call.
    As a coach (baseball coach), I also like to be the "guy in the white hat" at the end of the game, not the guy the official no longer likes...

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