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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blue Beetle View Post
    If the sophmores and seniors can get along Fairview will be the heavy preseason favorite. Terry would be the best player on any team in the region besides Elliott Co. and probably ain't real far behind Knipp.
    Terry wasn't Rose Hill's best player last year and wouldn't have been this year. It really doesn't matter because I see now way that he will be eligable. The KHSAA doesn't recognize free agency.

    So how does someone who is jobless afford two residences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themouth32 View Post
    The last time I checked with Chris Jennings he was living in Canada. I sit on this computer and read how all you gentlemen complain and cry about all of these children. I am a mother and realize most of you guys have no compassion for any children. Living through your boys seems to be so hard for all you older athletes. What happened to letting kids just play ball. May the best team win. Sometimes situations are not always what they seem. We teach our kids life is not always fair. As a mother I always say help every child I can. Children first, athletes second. God Bless All You PERFECT Gentlemen!!!!!!!
    Allow me to rephrase. Are the Terrys going to move into the house where lifelong Westwood resident Chris Jennings lived before moving to Canada?

    Showing kids how to circumvent the rules is a poor way of helping them in the long run.

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    Default from what i understand

    Rose Hill only has one member of the basketball team registered to attend school there this year...
    that's gotta mean something..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TapUouT View Post
    Rose Hill only has one member of the basketball team registered to attend school there this year...
    that's gotta mean something..
    It would mean something if it were true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koun Dog View Post
    Terry wasn't Rose Hill's best player last year and wouldn't have been this year. It really doesn't matter because I see now way that he will be eligable. The KHSAA doesn't recognize free agency.

    So how does someone who is jobless afford two residences?
    Nothing surprises me from the KHSAA. I have seen players ruled eligible because their parents rented an apartment in a new town, kept their old house, lived in their old house, put a "For Sale" sign in their yard, and asked an unreasonable price. The KHSAA is blind at times.

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    Mr. Koun Dog, If you can't say something nice about someone please don't say anything at all. I learned this golden rule in kindergarten. Try and remember these are children we are talking about, not adults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16th62nd View Post
    Nothing surprises me from the KHSAA. I have seen players ruled eligible because their parents rented an apartment in a new town, kept their old house, lived in their old house, put a "For Sale" sign in their yard, and asked an unreasonable price. The KHSAA is blind at times.
    Does the fact that Terry has to cross the Ohio River to get to school every morning have any bearing on his eligibility?

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    Does it really matter? Is everyone's lives changed because a 15/16 yr old has moved schools? Where ever he is attending I am sure we as fans of basketball will be treated to a few tomahawk poster shots, and I will be the first in line to get an autograph; that I will save and cherish until its value skyrockets via EBay....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Option V View Post
    Does it really matter? Is everyone's lives changed because a 15/16 yr old has moved schools? Where ever he is attending I am sure we as fans of basketball will be treated to a few tomahawk poster shots, and I will be the first in line to get an autograph; that I will save and cherish until its value skyrockets via EBay....
    Yeah, because that happens all the time. Frankly, this isn't about the kid. No one on here wishes him anything but good. And it does matter if rules were broken. You catchin' on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spindoc View Post
    You have a theory? Something you'd like to share?
    I do not have a theory. I made the comment that I did not think all the issues at Rose Hill could be laid neatly at the feet of Tim Fraley and JS responded that I was wrong. My response to that was we will just have to wait until we know all the facts. I find it hard to believe that Tim Fraley operated in a vacuum without the athletic director, the administration and/or the posse that ran the basketball program during that period knowing what he was doing. We are not talking about New York City here we are talking about a relatively small entourage of adults who were all intimately involved with what went on at the school and more importantly with the basketball program.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the one man View Post
    I do not have a theory. I made the comment that I did not think all the issues at Rose Hill could be laid neatly at the feet of Tim Fraley and JS responded that I was wrong. My response to that was we will just have to wait until we know all the facts. I find it hard to believe that Tim Fraley operated in a vacuum without the athletic director, the administration and/or the posse that ran the basketball program during that period knowing what he was doing. We are not talking about New York City here we are talking about a relatively small entourage of adults who were all intimately involved with what went on at the school and more importantly with the basketball program.
    Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one man View Post
    I do not have a theory. I made the comment that I did not think all the issues at Rose Hill could be laid neatly at the feet of Tim Fraley and JS responded that I was wrong. My response to that was we will just have to wait until we know all the facts. I find it hard to believe that Tim Fraley operated in a vacuum without the athletic director, the administration and/or the posse that ran the basketball program during that period knowing what he was doing. We are not talking about New York City here we are talking about a relatively small entourage of adults who were all intimately involved with what went on at the school and more importantly with the basketball program.
    You may be right. I know that at our school, we all are on the same page and there are channels that we all must go through when dealing with issues and there aren't many situations that coaches and administration aren't all in tune with what's going on. However, from the talk at a recent meeting in Lex. about this issue, there seems to be only one avenue that has problems. I've been more than clear on what that avenue happens to be. If there are others, then you are correct, they'll come out in the wash. All I can say with much certainty is that there is only one theme with the problems there that I'm aware of.

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    What years did Mr. Fraley coach at RH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themouth32 View Post
    Mr. Koun Dog, If you can't say something nice about someone please don't say anything at all. I learned this golden rule in kindergarten. Try and remember these are children we are talking about, not adults.
    Actually we are talking about adults in this case. The adult has to allow this to happen. The adult lost her job, moved her son, and supposedly changed her residence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one man View Post
    I do not have a theory. I made the comment that I did not think all the issues at Rose Hill could be laid neatly at the feet of Tim Fraley and JS responded that I was wrong. My response to that was we will just have to wait until we know all the facts. I find it hard to believe that Tim Fraley operated in a vacuum without the athletic director, the administration and/or the posse that ran the basketball program during that period knowing what he was doing. We are not talking about New York City here we are talking about a relatively small entourage of adults who were all intimately involved with what went on at the school and more importantly with the basketball program.
    So your willing to throw everyone associated with the Rose Hill program under the bus without proof or clarification? First of all does anyone actually know why Rose Hill is being investigated. Is it an isolated incident or a series of events. Fraley certainly could have operated in a vacuum in an isolated instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koun Dog View Post
    So your willing to throw everyone associated with the Rose Hill program under the bus without proof or clarification? First of all does anyone actually know why Rose Hill is being investigated. Is it an isolated incident or a series of events. Fraley certainly could have operated in a vacuum in an isolated instance.
    I am not throwing anyone under the bus. I merely made the observation that I did not believe that all the problems here can be laid at the feet of Tim Fraley. If he alone committed violations which are now threatening the program then someone should have known. I do not know the answer to your question about whether it is an isolated incident or a series of events but I would not expect an isolated incident to rise to the level where it threatens the program. I would expect there to have been a pattern of events or actions, on someones part, in order to rise to that level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the one man View Post
    I am not throwing anyone under the bus. I merely made the observation that I did not believe that all the problems here can be laid at the feet of Tim Fraley. If he alone committed violations which are now threatening the program then someone should have known. I do not know the answer to your question about whether it is an isolated incident or a series of events but I would not expect an isolated incident to rise to the level where it threatens the program. I would expect there to have been a pattern of events or actions, on someones part, in order to rise to that level.
    Wow, that's an awful lot of speculation. You're conspiracy theory astounds.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Koun Dog View Post
    Terry wasn't Rose Hill's best player last year
    So True; Mike was a valuable piece and we can expect good things from him in the future, but Corey was by far the better player and maybe the best in the area. Well at least top 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Option V View Post
    So True; Mike was a valuable piece and we can expect good things from him in the future, but Corey was by far the better player and maybe the best in the area. Well at least top 5.
    I heard Corey was going to Raceland.

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    I heard that as well.

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